How Do You Solve a Spin-One-Half Hamiltonian Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a single spin-one-half system characterized by a Hamiltonian expressed in terms of the x and y components of spin, specifically H = α*s_x + β*s_y, where α and β are real numbers. The participants are exploring various aspects of the Hamiltonian, including its square, energy eigenvalues, eigenvectors, and time evolution of the state vector.

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  • Participants are attempting to compute H^2 using the Pauli spin matrices and are questioning the relationship between the Hamiltonian and its eigenvalues. Some express uncertainty about the definitions of operators and eigenvalues, while others explore the implications of using H^2 to find eigenvalues.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the nature of operators and eigenvalues. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore the mathematical relationships involved, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to the problem.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of quantum mechanics, particularly the definitions and roles of Hamiltonians, eigenvalues, and state vectors. There is an emphasis on understanding the mathematical framework rather than arriving at a final solution.

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Homework Statement



A single spin-one-half system has Hamiltonian

[tex]H=\alpha*s_x+\beta*s_y[/tex], where [tex]\alpha[/tex] and [tex]\beta[/tex] are real numbers, and [tex]s_x[/tex] and [tex]s_y[/tex] are the x and y components of spin .

a) Using the representation of the spin components as Pauli spin matrices, find an expression for [tex]H^2[/tex] in termms of the above parameters.

b) used the result from part(a) to find the energy eigenvalues.

c) Find the eigenvectors of H in equation [tex]H=\alpha*s_x+\beta*s_y[/tex] in the Pauli spin matrix representation.

d) Supposed that a t time t=0 the system is an eigenstate of [tex]s_z[/tex], with eigen value [tex]+\h-bar/2[/tex]. Find the state vector as a function of time in the Pauli spin matrix representation.

e) Suppose the z-component of the spin in the state found in part d) is measured at time t>0 . Find probability that the result is [tex]+\hbar/2[/tex]

Homework Equations


[tex]s=(\hbar)*(\sigma)/2[/tex]
[tex](\sigma_x)[/tex],[tex](\sigma_y)[/tex], and [tex](\sigma_z)[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



a) Just multiply H twice right? but just need to insert matrix of x-component and y component for spin x and spin y

b) No idea what the energy eigenvalue is; Wouldn't it be H ? could they mean : U=exp(-i*H*t/(h-bar))?

c)Do they want me to just write the equation H out explicitly, i.e. with the matrix components of x and y ?

d) No idea what the state vector is; is it [tex]\phi=\varphi_x+[/tex]? is [tex]\varphi_x+= \hbar/2[/tex]?

e) I probably need to square the state vector which would be [tex](\hbar^2)/4[/tex] if my state vector in d is correct.

What do you think of my approach?
 
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noblegas said:
b) No idea what the energy eigenvalue is; Wouldn't it be H ? could they mean : U=exp(-i*H*t/(h-bar))?

No. The energy eigenvalues are given by E, not H:

[tex] \hat{H}\psi=E\psi[/tex]
 
jdwood983 said:
No. The energy eigenvalues are given by E, not H:

[tex] \hat{H}\psi=E\psi[/tex]

So then , it reallly requires no effort to do this part of the problem right? Should I find the value for psi?
 
noblegas said:
So then , it reallly requires no effort to do this part of the problem right? Should I find the value for psi?

No, you need to find [itex]E[/itex].
 
jdwood983 said:
No, you need to find [itex]E[/itex].

If E is equal to H and H is given in the problem, then why wouldn't I have my H.
 
noblegas said:
If E is equal to H and H is given in the problem, then why wouldn't I have my H.

[tex]\hat{H}[/tex] is not equal to [itex]E[/itex]. [tex]\hat{H}[/tex] is an operator while [itex]E[/itex] is a number.
 
jdwood983 said:
[tex]\hat{H}[/tex] is not equal to [itex]E[/itex]. [tex]\hat{H}[/tex] is an operator while [itex]E[/itex] is a number.

[itex]E[/itex] is an eigen value; Is E = T+V = exp(-i*E_n*t/(h-bar)) , which is what my eigenvlaues energies.
 
noblegas said:
[itex]E[/itex] is an eigen value; Is E = T+V = exp(-i*E_n*t/(h-bar)) , which is what my eigenvlaues energies.

[itex]E[/itex] is an eigenvalue, but it is still just a number. That value of [itex]E[/itex] you have written looks more like the unitary operator [itex]U[/itex] for the time-evolution of the Hamiltonian, but it would not be a solution of the eigenvalues for the Hamiltonian in general. You may want to review your textbook for definitions of operators, eigenvalues, and wave functions for further help.
 
jdwood983 said:
[itex]E[/itex] is an eigenvalue, but it is still just a number. That value of [itex]E[/itex] you have written looks more like the unitary operator [itex]U[/itex] for the time-evolution of the Hamiltonian, but it would not be a solution of the eigenvalues for the Hamiltonian in general. You may want to review your textbook for definitions of operators, eigenvalues, and wave functions for further help.

Well they say I need to use H^2 to find E. Assuming that [tex]H\varphi=E\varphi[/tex] . Then [tex]H^2\varphi=H(H\varphi)=H(E\varphi)=E(H\varphi)=E^2(\varphi)[/tex] Am I headed in the right direction?
 
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noblegas said:
Well they say I need to use H^2 to find E. Assuming that [tex]H\varphi=E\varphi[/tex] . Then [tex]H^2\varphi=H(H\varphi)=H(E\varphi)=E(H\varphi)=E^2(\varphi)[/tex] Am I headed in the right direction?

No. [itex]E[/itex] is still just a number while [itex]H[/itex] is an operator. Do you know what an operator is?
 
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For part (a), I would assume that [itex]H^2=|H|^2=H^*H[/itex], that is you need to multiply the complex conjugate to the original matrix. You know what the spin matrices are, I'm assuming, so you multiply [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] to each of those matrices and then add them to form one 2x2 matrix:

[tex] H=\frac{\hbar}{2}\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&\alpha\\ \alpha&0\end{array}\right)+\frac{\hbar}{2}\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&-i\beta\\ i\beta&0\end{array}\right)[/tex]


[tex] H^*=\frac{\hbar}{2}\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&\alpha\\ \alpha&0\end{array}\right)+\frac{\hbar}{2}\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&i\beta\\ -i\beta&0\end{array}\right)[/tex]

Add the matrices of each and then multiply the two matrices and you will have [itex]H^2[/itex]. You can then use the characteristic equation, [itex]\det(H-\lambda\mathbb{I})=0[/itex] to find the eigenvalues, [itex]\lambda[/itex], in terms of [itex]\hbar,\,\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex]. (Though I'm not sure why your professor suggested using the solution to [itex]H^2[/itex] to find the eigenvalues and not the original matrix, [itex]H[/itex].)
 

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