Dark Matter and Baryon Asymmetry: Is It Possible?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between dark matter (DM) and baryon asymmetry, exploring whether a type of DM could decay preferentially to matter over antimatter and its implications for baryon asymmetry. Participants examine various models and theoretical frameworks, including asymmetric dark matter and the role of heavy neutrinos, while considering the stability of DM over cosmological timescales.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose the concept of asymmetric dark matter, suggesting that DM could have an abundance due to an asymmetry in the dark sector similar to baryon asymmetry.
  • Others mention that heavy neutrinos could decay preferentially to matter over antimatter, which may explain baryon asymmetry, but these neutrinos would not typically qualify as dark matter.
  • A participant questions whether DM could be its own antiparticle and decay more to particles than antiparticles, potentially serving as a mechanism for baryon asymmetry without requiring an asymmetry in DM itself.
  • Concerns are raised about the decay rates of particles used to produce baryons, noting that a short decay rate would conflict with the requirements for stability as dark matter.
  • Another participant suggests the possibility of custodial symmetry, where decays could have occurred in the early universe but are suppressed in the current effective Lagrangian, allowing for stable DM today.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms by which dark matter could relate to baryon asymmetry, with no consensus reached on the viability of specific models or the implications of decay rates.

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The discussion highlights limitations regarding assumptions about the stability of dark matter and the nature of decay processes, as well as the dependence on theoretical frameworks that may not be universally accepted.

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Hello! I read several papers about different model of DM beyond basic WIMPs and axions but haven't found a lot about DM effects on baryon asymmetry. I was wondering, is it possible to have a type of DM that decays (or at least it did a lot in the past) preferably more to matter than antimatter? Or is there some fundamental symmetry that prevents this? Also if you know some papers that talk about this, I would really appreciate if you can point me towards them. Thank you!
 
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You may be interested in the concept of asymmetric dark matter in general. The idea behind it is to make dark matter more similar to matter in the sense that the DM abundance is due to an asymmetry in the dark sector similar to the baryon asymmetry in the visible sector. Within this class of models there are several different ways in which the dark and baryon asymmetries can be generated together.

Also, another possible explanation of the baryon asymmetry is in terms of very heavy neutrinos (typically introduced to explain the lightness of the standard model neutrinos) decaying preferentially to matter over antimatter as you describe. However, the very same heavy neutrinos would typically not be dark matter.
 
Orodruin said:
You may be interested in the concept of asymmetric dark matter in general. The idea behind it is to make dark matter more similar to matter in the sense that the DM abundance is due to an asymmetry in the dark sector similar to the baryon asymmetry in the visible sector. Within this class of models there are several different ways in which the dark and baryon asymmetries can be generated together.

Also, another possible explanation of the baryon asymmetry is in terms of very heavy neutrinos (typically introduced to explain the lightness of the standard model neutrinos) decaying preferentially to matter over antimatter as you describe. However, the very same heavy neutrinos would typically not be dark matter.
Thank you for this reply! I read about asymmetric DM but as you said this is more of a parallel between baryons and DM, assuming DM has an antiparticle. I was wondering about a more direct implication (like the heavy neutrinos effect) in which DM doesn't necessary have an antiparticle (it is it's own anti particle), but it decays more to particles than antiparticles. In this case DM doesn't have to be asymmetric, or be subject to the same mechanism as the baryons, instead DM itself is the mechanism (or at least one of them) which leads to baryon asymmetry? Is there any such model out there?
 
Typically, if you use the asymmetry in the decay to produce baryons, then your decay rate must be too short for the particle to be dark matter (for which it needs to be stable on cosmological time scales).
 
Orodruin said:
Typically, if you use the asymmetry in the decay to produce baryons, then your decay rate must be too short for the particle to be dark matter (for which it needs to be stable on cosmological time scales).
Ah I see. However, can't you have some sort of custodial symmetry? Like at high energies in the past the decay was allowed, but in the effective Lagrangian nowadays the decay is extremely suppressed (the higher terms that would allow it goes like ##\Lambda^{-n}##) so you can have stable DM now and yet lots of decays in the past?
 

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