High School Dark matter does not interact with ordinary matter....

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This discussion clarifies that dark matter interacts gravitationally with ordinary matter but does not engage in electromagnetic or strong nuclear interactions. Dark matter is essential for explaining the rotation curves of galaxies through the concept of dark matter halos. The conversation emphasizes that while dark matter can be influenced by gravity, it does not clump together like ordinary matter, which prevents it from forming stars or planets. Additionally, there is a possibility for dark matter to interact with the weak nuclear force, which is a focus for ongoing experimental searches.

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  • Understanding of gravitational interactions in astrophysics
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etotheipi
In the other thread, it was noted that dark matter doesn't interact with ordinary matter.

Now I tread cautiously, not knowing any of the relevant theory. In some school questions, I've come across discussion of 'dark matter halos' which are necessary to ensure the rotation curve of the galaxy fits what we observe; an example would be something like:

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For the purposes of this problem, for instance, we're just supposed to assume the dark matter interacts gravitationally just like ordinary matter does.

But if dark matter doesn't actually interact with ordinary matter, electromagnetically, gravitationally, or otherwise, then I wondered if someone could explain to me how we should perform these sorts of calculations? Thanks!
 
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etotheipi said:
In the other thread, it was noted that dark matter doesn't interact with ordinary matter.

No, it was noted that dark matter doesn't interact non-gravitationally with ordinary matter.

etotheipi said:
if dark matter doesn't actually interact with ordinary matter, electromagnetically, gravitationally, or otherwise

Nobody has been saying dark matter doesn't interact gravitationally. The whole reason for postulating dark matter in cosmological models is to provide enough of a source of gravity, over and above visible matter, to account for observations.
 
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Cool, thanks. I only asked because I noticed some sadness in response to the post that said "Wrong. It interacts gravitationally".

I'm glad there's nothing more to it! :smile:
 
Dark matter interacts gravitationally with normal matter and other dark matter. It just doesn't interact electromagnetically with anything. And collisions are electromagnetic interactions - if you "touch" a table, the electron clouds of your fingertip atoms are repelled by the electron clouds of the table atoms. That doesn't happen with dark matter - it just passes through.

So dark matter can be dragged around gravitationally - that's the dark matter halo. It just doesn't collide and suffer frictional losses the way regular matter does, so it doesn't clump into stars and planets and all the other junk we see out there.

etotheipi said:
I noticed some sadness in response to the post that said "Wrong. It interacts gravitationally".
That statement is correct. It just doesn't read as the most constructive attitude...
 
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To be more precise, I believe the actual limitations are on it not having electromagnetic or strong nuclear charge.

No electromagnetic charge is required because with such a charge it would behave very similar to normal matter. Which it definitely doesn't.

If it interacted with the strong nuclear force, it would collide with normal matter pretty frequently, making it super easy to detect in experiments here on Earth. I believe it would also change how the first elements formed in the very early universe.

It is very possible, however, for dark matter to interact with the weak nuclear force. And it definitely interacts with gravity because everything does (gravity interacts with mass, energy, momentum, and pressure, and everything has at least energy).

Weak nuclear force interactions are why physicists are looking for dark matter using underground experiments, for example.
 
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It is had to distinguish between "does not interact" and "interacts too weakly to notice".
 
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I always thought it was odd that we know dark energy expands our universe, and that we know it has been increasing over time, yet no one ever expressed a "true" size of the universe (not "observable" universe, the ENTIRE universe) by just reversing the process of expansion based on our understanding of its rate through history, to the point where everything would've been in an extremely small region. The more I've looked into it recently, I've come to find that it is due to that "inflation"...

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