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The Dawn spacecraft successfully observed Ceres from a distance of 238,000 miles on January 13, 2015, capturing over half of its surface at a resolution of 27 pixels. The mission aimed to enter a polar orbit around Ceres, with a planned descent to an altitude of 375 km, but faced challenges due to limited hydrazine propellant for attitude control. A cosmic ray event in September 2014 had previously disrupted the propulsion system, complicating the approach trajectory. Despite these issues, the spacecraft was expected to achieve a stable orbit around Ceres, ultimately becoming a "perpetual satellite" as it ran out of fuel. The mission's success would provide valuable data on Ceres' physical characteristics and surface mapping.
  • #571
First pictures from HAMO--the next-to-nearest orbit are being posted. Here are some samples:
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/image-detail.html?id=PIA19631
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA19631.tif
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA19632.tif
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA19633.tif
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA19633.jpg

New status update from Marc Rayman:
August 24, 2015 - Mapping Proceeding Extremely Well

Today Dawn is making its ninth orbital passage over the illuminated side of Ceres since beginning its new mapping phase. The explorer needs 12 dayside passes (each lasting 9.5 hours, or half an orbit) to see all of Ceres. (This is explained further in the latest Dawn Journal.)
 
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I was very, very disappointed when I saw the image of the mountain yesterday.
olimpet.mons.2015.08.25.jpg
Getting closer was supposed to take away the mysteries of the planet. I've been told that I have a very good imagination, but this image is too strange for me to even attempt a description of what I'm looking at.
 
  • #573
After 10 minutes of staring, I came up with the following thoughts:

If it weren't 4 miles high, I'd say we are looking at "frost heaving".
Googling shows similar features here on Earth called "Pingos".
Given the low gravity of Ceres, I'm going to stick to this answer.
Until of course, someone points out, that I'm an idiot.
:smile:
 
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I also found there was something confusing and unsatisfying about that image. Hard to imagine the physical process of formation.

Just saw your "pingo" link. Great connection! possible analog!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingo#Formation
==quote==
Hydrostatic (closed-system) pingos form as a result of hydrostatic pressure on water from permafrost, and commonly form in drained lakes or river channels. Permafrost rises to the drained body's former floor. Pore water is expelled in front of the rising permafrost, and the resulting pressure causes the frozen ground to rise and an ice core to form. The shape and size of a hydrostatic or closed system pingo is often similar to the body of water that it originated from. They can vary from symmetrical conical domes to asymmetric, elongate hills.
==endquote==

We've seen some elongate ridges. maybe they could be pingos too.

Om, your pointing out the pingo bump-up process makes the images we have considerably more interesting. Thanks!
 
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marcus said:
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Om, your pointing out the pingo bump-up process makes the images we have considerably more interesting. Thanks!

I was actually expecting; "You were right, Om. You are an idiot".
But I'll take a compliment. :smile:
 
  • #576
New status update out today:
==quote==

August 27, 2015 - Dawn Completes First Mapping Observations

Shortly before midnight last night, Dawn completed its twelfth revolution over the sunlit side of Ceres in this mapping phase. That concluded the observations required to make the first map.

The spacecraft is now pointing its main antenna to Earth and transmitting its precious results. It will continue sending pictures and other data until tomorrow night.

Dawn will begin its second mapping cycle at this altitude around 11:00 PM PDT on August 28. As explained in the Dawn Journal, throughout the second mapping observations, it will point its camera a little back and to the left, rather than straight down, providing provide stereo views from which scientists can construct 3-D views of the alien terrain.
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Om, one of the problems with that picture of the mountain, for me (and possibly for you), stems from its being taken straight down smack on the tip of the cone. So we couldn't see any suggestion of the conical shape. There was nothing to suggest height or perspective.
This next mapping cycle will, Rayman says, be taken with the camera pointed back and to the side, so we will get something looking a bit more like a mountain.

And eventually, I guess after all six mapping cycles are completed, the straight down and the various slantwise views will be digitally merged to give a 3D map of the surface.

In line with what Rayman said in the update, the DSN site shows Madrid antenna #65 receiving (pictures probably) data from Dawn at the rate 125 thousand bits per second. He says that will continue until tomorrow evening and then the new mapping cycle will start 11PM pacific on 28 August.

When it's not transmitting data Dawn seems to keep up a steady low bit-rate signal of 10 bits per second, which seems to me to be about detecting variations in subsurface density (by doppler from changes in the orbital speed as the craft flies over concentrations of mass). It can do that with one of the smaller antennas, while the camera is aimed at the ground. We should be able to see the changeover from the high bit-rate to the low, tomorrow, when mapping is resumed.
 
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  • #577
My guess is that the formation was either driven up from below or deposited from above from nearby material - perhaps from the crater just below it in this view. Beneath are views of vaguely similar structures on Mars and Earth.

olimpet-mons-2015-08-25-jpg.87832.jpg


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Butte in the transition zone between the cratered uplands of western Arabia Terra and the low, northern plains of Mars, formerly known as "The Face on Mars". Image credit: NASA

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Brandberg Massif, Namibia
Image Credit: NASA/USGS
 
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Om mentioned "frost heaving" earlier. I was curious about the mechanism, and looked it up. It almost sounds as if under certain conditions ice is attractive to water that is ready to freeze in the sense that moisture will percolate up through certain types of soil in order to bond to already existing ice crystals. It is physically easier for water to freeze onto an existing ice crystal than in the absence of one--so water will in effect be drawn to an icy layer. The icy layer grows, forcing particles of soil apart, creating pressure.
http://www.concretenetwork.com/conc...ow_footings/frost_actions_and_foundations.htm
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How Frost Heave Works
The volume increase that occurs when water changes to ice was at first thought to be the cause of frost heave, but it is now recognized that the phenomenon known as ice segregation is the basic mechanism.

Water is drawn from unfrozen soil to the freezing zone where it attaches to form layers of ice, forcing soil particles apart and causing the soil surface to heave. Without physical restraint there is no apparent limit to the amount of heaving that may occur. (Movements in excess of 4 in. developing under basement floors in only three weeks have been recorded.)

Where restraint in the form of a building load is present, heaving pressures may or may not overcome the restraint, but they can be very high: 19 tons/sq ft has been measured, and a seven-story reinforced concrete frame building on a raft foundation was observed to heave more than 2 in.

A different form of frost action, called "adfreezing," occurs when soil freezes to the surface of a foundation. Heaving pressures developing at the base of the freezing zone are transmitted through the adfreezing bond to the foundation, producing uplift forces capable of appreciable vertical displacements. If constructed of concrete block a basement wall may fail under tension and part at a horizontal mortar joint near the depth of frost penetration.

Controlling Factors
For frost action to occur three basic conditions must be satisfied: the soil must be frost-susceptible; water must be available in sufficient quantities; and cooling conditions must cause soil and water to freeze. If one of these conditions can be eliminated, frost heaving will not occur.

Frost-susceptibility is related to size distribution of soil particles. In general, coarse-grained soils such as sands and gravels do not heave, whereas clays, silts and very fine sands will support the growth of ice lenses even when present in small proportions in coarse soils. If frost-susceptible soils located where they will affect foundations can be removed and replaced by coarser material, frost heaving will not occur.

Water must be available in the unfrozen soil for movement to the freezing plane where the growth of ice lenses occurs. A high groundwater table with respect to the location of the ice lenses will therefore favour frost action...
==endquote==
 
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Earlier Om called attention to the ice-driven mount called "pingo"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingo

Notice that on Earth, in the arctic, pingos get as high as 70 meters (230 ft)

How high does that suggest pingos could get on Ceres, under favorable conditions? The gravity is about 1/30 Earth's or about 3%.

I believe to have a pingo you need a subsurface water table, at least part of the time. there needs to be a subsurface thaw at least now and then, to provide liquid water which can be drawn into the freeze zone. Maybe someone else can explain the process of pingo-formation and estimate how it might go in low gravity. Favorable conditions would probably be extremely rare.
 
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OmCheeto said:
After 10 minutes of staring, I came up with the following thoughts:

If it weren't 4 miles high, I'd say we are looking at "frost heaving".
Googling shows similar features here on Earth called "Pingos".
Given the low gravity of Ceres, I'm going to stick to this answer.
Until of course, someone points out, that I'm an idiot.
:smile:
I had that same thought a few days ago when I first saw the picture, and made the comment that it looked like a pingo albeit it much larger than one on Earth on the article about the new pictures on phys.org. I imagine that without the restraints of gravity they'd be able to get much larger. Also since it's colder near the surface of Ceres ice should be a bit harder and able to maintain a large shape which it can't do on Earth.

Also if the internals of Ceres are just starting to freeze up (assuming therefore there is a liquid layer) according to one astronomer Mike Brown, the slow freezing of a deep liquid layer will eventually result in cyrovolcanoes,because ice expands as it freezes. As the layer of frozen water grows the pressure on th remaining liquid or slushy layer grows until the frozen layer gives and cracks allowing the liquid to escape upwards, and if there is enough pressure erupt as a cryovolcano.

Another thing to consider is this could be a parellel of what happens on Earth when mineral rich ground water flows for a long period. Over time dolomite or similar minerals are laid down rather quickly creating a steeply inclined hill (like in Yellowstone or Turkey).

On ceres with no atmospheric pressure, the water would quickly fizz away and maybe build a much steeper mineral deposit with much sharper edges since the water would barely flow downhill before it evaporated completely.

It would likely build so fast that at intervals it would partially collapse only be built up again as long as the water kept flowing.

Taking all those things together, ice could build a much larger structure on Ceres like we see.
 
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marcus said:
Earlier Om called attention to the ice-driven mount called "pingo"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingo

Notice that on Earth, in the arctic, pingos get as high as 70 meters (230 ft)

How high does that suggest pingos could get on Ceres, under favorable conditions? The gravity is about 1/30 Earth's or about 3%.

I believe to have a pingo you need a subsurface water table, at least part of the time. there needs to be a subsurface thaw at least now and then, to provide liquid water which can be drawn into the freeze zone. Maybe someone else can explain the process of pingo-formation and estimate how it might go in low gravity. Favorable conditions would probably be extremely rare.

Since no one else has shown the arithmetic (although several of us seem to like the frost-heaving/pingo idea) I'll do it.

As a rough order of magnitude if pingos can get 70 meters high in Earth gravity, then in 1/30 gee
where the overburden weighs 1/30
and with the same physics producing the upthrust pressure
we can just multiply 70 x 30 and get 2100 meters
or 2 kilometers, which is order of magnitude right for the height of the mountain.

the same balance of forces which on Earth makes a pingo 70 meters would make a pingo of 2 kilometers on Ceres. Close enough to be suggestive.
We can only guess what other factors (lower temperature, longer lifespan, sources of additional subsurface hydraulic pressure, type of soil) could have contributed to raising that mountain 3 times higher, to 6 kilometers.
 
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I think the transmission of pictures and data from the first HAMO cycle is nearly complete. DSN https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html shows Goldstone #24 still receiving at 125 kilobit per second, but that should be over by 11 PM.
There are to be 6 cycles. The second one starts around 11 PM pacific this evening. We should see a 10 bits per second tracking signal then, at DSN, instead of the 125 kilobits per second data transmission signal from DAWN's main antenna.
 
  • #583
Yes, the second mapping cycle must have started about then:
==quote Rayman status update 31 Aug==
August 31, 2015 - Dawn's Second Mapping Cycle Underway

Orbiting Ceres at an average altitude of 915 miles (1,470 kilometers), Dawn is photographing the dwarf planet for a new map. Each map requires observations during 12 flights over the dayside of Ceres (plus two more while it transmits the pictures and spectra to Earth). The team calls this one "cycle." (See the August Dawn Journal for more on how the mapping works.)

Today the spacecraft is making its fourth flight over the dayside of Ceres in the second mapping cycle.
==endquote==
I'll bring forward the schedule for to have it handy:
Code:
Orbit    dates      altitude(km)  pixelsize(m) res/HST  period  soccerball at
RC3    April 23–May 9    (13,600)    (1,300)    24     15 days    (3.0 meters)
Survey    June 6-30      (4,400)      (410)     73     3.1 days    (1.0 meters)
HAMO    Aug 17–Oct 23    (1,470)      (140)     217    19 hours    (33 cm)
LAMO Dec 15–end of mission (375)      (35)      850    5.5 hours    (8.5 cm)

LAMO (low altitude mapping orbit) is where gamma spectroscopy and thermal neutron detection will play a major role in discovering the chemical composition of Ceres surface material ("regolith").

Rayman says Dawn is completing 4 orbits today. 4 passes over the day side, taking pictures.
Just to check, 4 x 19 = 76, divided by 24 is a little over 3. A little over 3 days. The second cycle got started about 3 days ago late Friday evening. Now it's late afternoon Monday, three days... It makes sense.

Simview shows Dawn JUST having passed over the S pole and over to the night side, so it may be a little out of sync but not too bad. DSN shows Dawn still TAKING pictures because just sending a secondary tracking signal 10 bits per second, from one of the small antennas. Or maybe just finished taking pictures and in the process of turning around to transmit data.

http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html
https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/fullview2.jpg
 
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I posted my "pingo" hypothesis on Dawn's Facebook page, and a student living in Alessandria, Italy, liked my idea.
I checked out his Facebook page, and he posted a pictures of a pingo in Canada, and "The lonely mountain" on Ceres.
Eerily similar in appearance:
Ceres.vs.Knuck.pingo.jpg

I traced his Canadian image to a website: Planetary Geomorphology Image of the Month, based in the UK.
The article was titled: Closed (hydrostatic) pingos on Earth and possibly Mars

marcus said:
Favorable conditions would probably be extremely rare.

Well, there is only one mountain on Ceres. I would call that "rare". :biggrin:

But here is the new problem.
How far can I go with my nutty theories?
PF has a policy of "No personal theories".
But, we seem to be looking at a Trekkian/PF dichotomous problem, as "No man, has gone here, before".

Meh...
As always, I'll take the plunge, and state that it may be the crater to the lonely mountain's south, that is the engine generating the lift.
The "seed" of the mountain may be a long lost comet, possibly billions of years old. I've heard that comets are very light.

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I wouldn't call that a personal theory so much as a reasonable conjecture within the framework of the common body of physics.
That's a really neat find
https://planetarygeomorphology.word...c-pingos-on-earth-and-possibly-mars/#more-445
from the online "Planetary Geomorphology"

You are right that only one mountain on Ceres would be "rare". But maybe we will eventually see more---maybe smaller, maybe not so perfectly round.
Pingos can sometimes be oblong.

Something had to provide the heat and it is rather late in the day for internal radioactive decay. You are conjecturing that it could have been a comet that crashed into Ceres and formed the nearby crater.
This strikes me as good thinking and I bet we will eventually see some cautious professional thinking along just these lines!

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One thing they may be waiting for is the 3D pictures of Lonely Mountain. Based on a few more mapping cycles, taking pictures of the same mountain from different angles. Then if it walks and quacks like a Pingo it will be respectable for serious people to suggest that it might be one. I am forced to chuckle a bit about the extreme caution being displayed.

The caption in your article said one of the Earth pingos was 48 meters high. the corresponding height in 1/30 gravity would be 1440 meters, I guess.

Can you understand their description of pingo formation?
 
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marcus said:
...You are conjecturing that it could have been a comet that crashed into Ceres and formed the nearby crater.
Not really. What would the the slowest case impact be on Ceres? Is it the same as escape velocity? That's around 1100 mph.
I was thinking more on the line of an ancient comet, sitting below the crust, and serendipitously having a deep crater created next to it, eons later.

It's my conjecture that the surfaces of craters are similar to parabolic reflecting ovens.
A flat surface absorbing sunlight would radiate much more of it's energy away, than a crater, which would thermally radiate back onto it's own walls,

flat.vs.concave.surface.reflections.jpg
So my imagination says that the area around a deep crater would be slightly warmer than a flat surface.
And if there weren't some type of "seed" object, I would imagine that pingos would form uniformly around the crater, rather than in just one spot.
Also, Mt. Lonely is very near the equator: 11° S.
So it would be an ideal location for maximal heating and cooling.

This strikes me as good thinking and I bet we will eventually see some cautious professional thinking along just these lines!

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One thing they may be waiting for is the 3D pictures of Lonely Mountain. Based on a few more mapping cycles, taking pictures of the same mountain from different angles. Then if it walks and quacks like a Pingo it will be respectable for serious people to suggest that it might be one. I am forced to chuckle a bit about this one.

It was just a random idea.
 
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OmCheeto said:
A flat surface absorbing sunlight would radiate much more of it's energy away, than a crater, which would thermally radiate back onto it's own walls,
It also has more surface for infrared emission. In thermal equilibrium those effects cancel each other exactly. It's the same reason why the shape of a black body does not matter for its temperature.

The effect of day/night differences (non-equilibrium situation) can be different.
 
  • #588
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It also has more surface for infrared emission. In thermal equilibrium those effects cancel each other exactly. It's the same reason why the shape of a black body does not matter for its temperature.

The effect of day/night differences (non-equilibrium situation) can be different.

I was thinking more in the line of a black body cavity. Once a photon gets in, it's a bit harder for the thermal emissions to get out. Not sure about the thermodynamics of a crater though.
I got the idea from the pits spitting out jets from Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

ps. I'm just throwing out ideas. Everyone, please feel free to point out my misconceptions! :smile:
 
  • #589
OmCheeto said:
Once a photon gets in, it's a bit harder for the thermal emissions to get out.
You can increase the timescale until it reaches equilibrium, but you cannot change the equilibrium temperature. Sure, Ceres as a whole is not in perfect equilibrium, but it is quite close as primordial heat and nuclear decays shouldn't play such an important role today.
 
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Status update from Rayman today:
==quote==
September 4, 2015 - Second Mapping Cycle Going Smoothly

Today Dawn is making its ninth transit over the illuminated hemisphere of Ceres in its second mapping cycle. Throughout this cycle, it is taking pictures and making spectral measurements of the terrain behind and to its left as it orbits the dwarf planet.

The spacecraft will complete its observations for this second map shortly before 1:00 a.m. PDT on Sept. 7. It will then spend almost two days (about 2.5 revolutions around Ceres) transmitting its results to NASA's Deep Space Network.
==endquote==
Each mapping cycle takes 12 passes over the day side of the planetto. Each orbit takes 19 hours, so 57 hours more to make the 3 remaining passes or about 2 Earth days 9 hours. Subtract that from 1am 7 Sept and you get 4pm on 4 Sept. Seems about right. The pass he was talking about must have concluded around 4pm today.

BTW if they had extra hydrazine, or could use the reaction wheels they could do more turning and do more of the broadcasting of pictures to Earth during the dead time on the NIGHT SIDE. But I think to conserve hydrazine they are SAVING UP more data from each mapping cycle and sending the whole saved-up batch at the end of the cycle, which adds the 2.5 days Rayman spoke of.

Got to respect the resourcefulness of the planners/navigators---how they find ways to stretch the scarce resources and get the job done. Even if it takes a little longer.

Looking forward to December when they finally get close enough to use gamma and neutron spectroscopy to savor the CHEMISTRY of Ceres surface dirt.
 
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  • #591
No pictures of the bright spots from HAMO orbit so far :(.
 
  • #593
Where do you see a square?
And where is the original image?
 
  • #594
ceres bright spots square.jpg
 
  • #595
And the Original

bright spots ceres original PIA19630_hires.jpg
original
 
  • #596
That looks like a camera effect of over-exposure to me.

Garth
 
  • #597
Ok maybe, I'm not an expert in the field of digital imaging. However the spots seem quite structured anyway. Or are they all processing artefacts?
 
  • #598
Here I tried to highlight a pattern and connect similar pixels.
PIA19630 connect dots.jpg
 
  • #599
That looks better - more 'natural' rather than 'machine generated' and I have no informed idea what those bright areas are but I would hazard a guess as newly exposed ices on the central mound at the centre and on the floor of the crater.

Garth
 
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Looks like a pure processing artifact. The original picture doesn't have such a structure.
 

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