DBB and radioactive decay times

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The discussion centers on the deBroglie-Bohm (dBB) theory and its deterministic nature, specifically regarding the calculation of decay times for unstable atoms. It highlights that while dBB theory aligns with standard quantum mechanics (QM) for measurable statistical predictions, the challenge arises from time not being an operator in QM. A proposed solution involves introducing a time operator in QM, allowing for the application of existing theorems to decay time measurements. References to relevant papers are provided for further exploration of this topic.

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  • Knowledge of statistical predictions in quantum theories
  • Concept of time operators in quantum mechanics
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  • Examine the implications of the general theorem on dBB theory and decay times
  • Read the papers referenced: "http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0811.1905" and "http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/1002.3226"
  • Explore the concept of probability expressions in quantum decay processes
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skippy1729
Since it is deterministic, the deBroglie-Bohm theory needs a model, mechanism or story whereby complete information of the pilot wave, particle trajectories and other hidden variables will allow calculation of the decay time of a particular unstable atom. What progress has been made on this? Any references appreciated.

Skippy
 
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skippy1729 said:
Since it is deterministic, the deBroglie-Bohm theory needs a model, mechanism or story whereby complete information of the pilot wave, particle trajectories and other hidden variables will allow calculation of the decay time of a particular unstable atom. What progress has been made on this? Any references appreciated.

Skippy
There is a general theorem that ALL measurable statistical predictions of dBB theory coincide with those of standard QM. However, this theorem assumes that the measured quantity is described by an OPERATOR. On the other hand, in the usual formulation QM, time is not an operator, which is why it is not so obvious how to apply the theorem to predictions on decay times.

Fortunately, there is a way to introduce a time operator in QM, in which case the general theorem can be applied to measurements of decay times as well. For general results on time operator in QM and the corresponding dBB theory, see
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/0811.1905 [Int. J. Quantum Inf. 7 (2009) 595]
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/1002.3226 [to appear in Int. J. Quantum Inf.]
The decay time in dBB is not specifically discussed, but the result of Sec. 3.2 of the second paper is general enough to include this case as well.
 
I'm maybe very naive here, but I would think that "decay time" is actually just a way of expressing a probability of an event in a normalized way (a bit like "cross section"). You do not really measure a time: you measure the probability to have a certain channel after a (small but parametrically given) amount of time. In other words, exactly the same as "what's the probability that the photon hits detector X after t seconds", no ?
 

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