De Broglie wavelength (relativistic e-)

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Wavelength of an electron

Homework Statement



De Broglie postulated that the relationship λ=h/p is valid for relativistic particles. What is the de Broglie wavelength for a (relativistic) electron whose kinetic energy is 3.00 MeV?

-Electron has 3.00 MeV (or 4.8*10^-13 Joules)
-it's relativistic
-finding λ.

Homework Equations



h=6.63*10^-34

λ=h/p (obviously)

And I'm not sure if they're needed, but the relativistic eq's are:

KE = mc^2/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)
p = mv/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)

I'm not sure if this one applies to relativistic speeds:

E = hc/λ

The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1:

E = hc/λ

4.8E-13 = (6.63E-34)(3E8)/λ
λ = (6.63E-34)(3E8)/(4.8E-13)
λ = 4.14E-13 m

BUT answer key says 3.58E-13

If you could help, that would be great.
Sorry if it's too long, and I'm a little unfamiliar with relativistic eqn's so forgive me if I screwed up on them.
 
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Jules18 said:

Homework Equations



h=6.63*10^-34

λ=h/p (obviously)

And I'm not sure if they're needed, but the relativistic eq's are:

KE = mc^2/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)
p = mv/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)
Actually, this "KE" expresson is giving the total energy, kinetic + rest mass energy, so

KE + mc2 = mc2/sqrt(1-(v/c)2)

I'm not sure if this one applies to relativistic speeds:

E = hc/λ
That's an approximation that applies at extremely relativistic speeds (say v>0.99c), and is strictly true only when v=c, i.e. for photons and other massless particles.

Since this is a moderately relativistic situation, E=hc/λ is not valid.

You could try using the KE + mc2 equation instead, but many problems like this one make use of this:
E2 = (mc2)2 + (pc)2
where, again, E is the total energy,
E = KE + mc2
 


Wait, I just realized this is close to an extreme relativistic situation.

Jules18 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt 1:

E = hc/λ

Yes, that will work. However, E is the total energy, kinetic + rest mass energy. Just using the kinetic energy for E is wrong.
 
oookay that makes a lot more sense. Thanks so much, redbelly. :)
 

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