De Moivre Laplace theorem question

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The discussion centers on the application of the de Moivre Laplace theorem to approximate the sum of binomial coefficients, specifically addressing the expression for the binomial distribution as it relates to the normal distribution. The user attempts to derive an approximation for the sum \(\sum_{k=0}^{m}k\binom{n}{k}\) using a similar approach to an earlier successful approximation, but encounters counter-intuitive results. The resolution involves recognizing the need for bounded functions in convergence and applying a transformation of binomial coefficients to utilize the established approximation correctly.

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Homework Statement



According to the de Moivre Laplace theorem

\binom{n}{k}p^{k}q^{n-k}\approx\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi{}npq}}e^{-\frac{(k-np)^{2}}{2npq}}

For p=q=1/2 this translates nicely into an approximation for the binomial distribution by the normal distribution (the +1/2 is a continuity correction):

\binom{n}{k}\approx{}2^{n}N(\frac{n}{2},\frac{n}{4})(k)

and therefore

\mbox{(A)}\quad \sum_{k=0}^{m}\binom{n}{k}\approx{}2^{n}\int_{-\infty}^{m+\frac{1}{2}}N(\frac{n}{2},\frac{n}{4})(x)dx

This appears to be correct. I am trying to solve a problem for which I need

\sum_{k=0}^{m}k\binom{n}{k}

and I am wondering what would keep me from reasoning in analogy to (A) so that

\mbox{(B)}\quad \sum_{k=0}^{m}k\binom{n}{k}\approx{}2^{n}\int_{-\infty}^{m+\frac{1}{2}}xN(\frac{n}{2},\frac{n}{4})(x)dx

Unfortunately, when I use (B) I get some very counter-intuitive results (too complicated to expand on them here).

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Hi stlukits! :smile:

Let X have the binomial(n,1/2) distribution, and let Z have the normal(0,1) distribution. Let

Y_n=\frac{X-n/2}{\sqrt{n/4}}

What you are using is that Yn converges in distribution to Z. This is correct and yields the good results you're getting.

However, after that you use something like

E[f(Y_n)]\rightarrow E[f(Z)]

For

f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{c}x~\text{if}~x\leq m\\ 0~\text{if}~x>m\end{array}\right.
However, this does not need to hold if you only know convergence in distribution. By Portmanteau theorem, this only holds for functions f with certain properties (like boundedness, which this function f is not).

However, not all is lost. You can do

\binom{n}{k}=\frac{n}{k}\binom{n-1}{k-1}

and thus

\sum_{k=1}^m{k\binom{n}{k}}=n\sum_{k=1}^m{\binom{n-1}{k-1}}

And now you can apply formula A again (which DOES work well!)
 
Simple and brilliant. I'll try it. And thanks for explaining why (A) is legit.
 

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