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This thread discusses the implications of a New York Times article regarding FDA actions on dietary supplements aimed at preventing dementia, alongside recommendations from two reports on lifestyle changes that may positively impact health in old age. The conversation touches on personal experiences with dementia and the quality of life in later years.

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  • Some participants highlight the FDA's crackdown on supplements that claim to prevent dementia, suggesting that these supplements may not be effective.
  • Recommendations from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine include increased physical activity, blood pressure management, and cognitive training.
  • The Lancet Commission on Dementia Prevention emphasizes the importance of managing hypertension, engaging in exercise, social interaction, smoking cessation, and addressing obesity, diabetes, hearing loss, and depression.
  • One participant shares a personal story about a friend who experienced dementia, expressing concern about the disease and the importance of maintaining quality of life rather than just longevity.
  • Another participant recounts their experience with a parent suffering from frontal lobe dementia, detailing the emotional toll and challenges faced by caregivers.
  • There are expressions of shared grief and empathy among participants regarding the struggles of aging and the impact of dementia on family dynamics.

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Participants express a range of personal experiences and emotional responses related to dementia and aging. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of supplements versus lifestyle changes, and the discussion includes both supportive and critical viewpoints regarding the recommendations made in the reports.

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Participants discuss various factors affecting health in old age, including the effectiveness of supplements and the importance of lifestyle changes. There are references to personal anecdotes that highlight the emotional and practical challenges of caring for aging family members, but no definitive conclusions are drawn about the best approaches to health management in later life.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals concerned about aging, dementia, and the effectiveness of health supplements, as well as those seeking to understand the emotional impact of caregiving for elderly relatives.

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This NY Times article discusses:
an FDA crackdown of supplements intended to prevent things like dementia (they don't do much of anything)
as well as discussing the results of two reports about simple actions individuals can take that (unlike supplements) might have positive effects.

National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine in 2017 recommended:
  • Increased physical activity;
  • Blood pressure management for people with hypertension, particularly in midlife;
  • And cognitive training (the concept of being mentally active)
The Lancet Commission on Dementia Prevention, Intervention and Care also recommended:
  • hypertension treatment for the middle-aged,
  • along with exercise,
  • social engagement
  • smoking cessation
  • management of obesity
  • diabetes
  • hearing loss
  • depression
 
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They recommend diabetes, hearing loss and depression? Wow...someone forgot to take their supplements!
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
They recommend diabetes, hearing loss and depression? Wow...someone forgot to take their supplements!
Good catch :oldbiggrin:
 
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I had a friend die of dementia a few years ago. Very active, engaging sportsman, seemingly good health. One day while fishing with some friends in a familiar area he indicated he did not know where he was. About three years later he died. That is one disease as well as a stroke that I am most concerned about if it makes any sense to be concerned about something that you may not have any control over. .

I think I am close to being the oldest on this forum. so this subject often pops into my mind. I am not so much interested in longevity but more in the quality of my remaining years. My health is good so far, no meds, BP is normal for my age.and never smoked. I believe as stated above that physical activity, social engagement, and being mentally active (think Physics Forum) are very important in staving off health issues with physical activity probably being the most important.. Regarding physical activity we think in terms of aerobic or strength exercises which of course are important but I would also include flexibility exercises, as tightness in the joints has a fast onset when you stop moving which causes you to restrict your motions more and downgrades the quality of your activity.

I hedge my bets a little by taking a multi vitamin about three times a week. Old people don't seem to absorb those things as well as they use to. Can't hurt. Keep your weight in control, Eat healthy, keep moving. Maintain a positive attitude.. Keep excited about what you are doing. Remain relevant.
 
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My mom has frontal lobe dementia. She turned 88 this past January.

I saw her three weeks ago, and she did not recognize me as her son. She kept asking dad and my sister-in-law for my name. She and dad are essentially housebound, since she can barely walk. She has to use a walker, but sometimes, she gets away from it. Sometimes dad puts it out of her reach, and apparently she fell three times last week trying to walk without the walker. This last visit is probably the last time I will see her alive.

Dad will turn 90 later this year. He is still mentally sharp, but caring for mom is taking a toll on him, and he is slowly losing his sight to macular degeneration.
 
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Astronuc said:
This last visit is probably the last time I will see her alive.
Ohhh man :frown:

I so know that feeling. I got back from New Zealand last weekend. Apart from catching up with kids and granddaughter, the main point of the trip was to see mom and dad. It was his 90th birthday. they are both a lot frailer than when I saw them last, a couple of years ago. My mom is going downhill reasonably quickly also after 2 falls which has quickened the onset of dementia ( hard head hits in both falls).

Astronuc said:
This last visit is probably the last time I will see her alive.

Exact same position :cry: it brings me to tears just typing this. Bawled my eyes out as I drove out of the driveway :frown:

Astronuc said:
Dad will turn 90 later this year. He is still mentally sharp, but caring for mom is taking a toll on him

Dad was 90 on 17 Mar. a St Paddy's lad :smile: and yes he's still pretty good mentally, has been a little forgetful for years haha. Mom is 89 in late June this year. Her nite-time episodes are taking a serious toll on dads health. Just wearing him out with the broken nite's sleep and the stress

They are both still living at home with very good daytime home care visits to help with checking on medicine taking, showering and other general household chores. But it is these nite-time problems that are causing the real issues. My sister and brother have been trying to find a decent aged care facility to get them into but there's huge waiting lists etc.

My thoughts go out to you, mateDave
 
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