Debugging Latex Equations: Tips and Tools for Troubleshooting

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting LaTeX equations, specifically the Euler Lagrange Equation, and the challenges faced when rendering these equations on different platforms, such as WordPress and a specific forum. Participants share tips and tools for debugging LaTeX code.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original equation provided by the OP works in some environments but fails in others, prompting a request for debugging tools.
  • Some participants suggest that the use of \mathcal without braces may be problematic, while others clarify that braces are needed only for longer arguments.
  • TeXnic is mentioned as a potential tool for debugging, though one participant reports it did not resolve their issue.
  • Another participant suggests changing \text to \textrm, indicating that \text is specifically for use in display environments.
  • One participant reports success with the equation in Latexit, suggesting that the issue may be related to the specific software or settings used by the OP.
  • There is mention of an "undefined control sequence" error related to \text, which is resolved by using \textrm, indicating a dependency on the amsmath package.
  • A suggestion is made to replace "..." with "\ldots" for better formatting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the source of the issues with the LaTeX rendering, with some suggesting syntax problems while others point to environmental differences. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact cause of the rendering issues across different platforms.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the LaTeX environment settings on different platforms and the specific packages loaded, which may affect the rendering of the equations.

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\left(\frac{\partial \mathcal L(a_1,…a_n, …;\dot a_1,..,\dot a_n, …;t)}{\partial a_i}\right) - \left(\frac{d}{dy} \frac{\partial \mathcal L(a_1,…a_n, …;\dot a_1,..,\dot a_n, …;t)}{\partial \dot a_i}\right) = 0 \quad \text{for } i = 1, \dots, n, i \neq j

The above equation works on this form but won't work on my wordpress blog (see Lagrangian Mechanics and The Heat Equation), and it won't work on http://www.climateaudit.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=766&p=14997#p14997 . Is there any useful tools for debugging latex equations? If anyone is curious the above equation is the Euler Lagrange Equation.
 
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\mathcal is usually succeeded by {blah}. Could that be the problem?

You can use TeXnic for debugging information.
 
Dragonfall said:
\mathcal is usually succeeded by {blah}. Could that be the problem?

You can use TeXnic for debugging information.

I gave it a try. No such luck though. Thanks though. I'm going to give TeXnic a try. Hopefully it will save me a lot of trouble in the future.
 
Try changing \text to \textrm (or something).
 
"\mathcal is usually succeeded by {blah}. Could that be the problem?"

No - if the argument to mathcal is longer than a single character then {} would be needed, but without them it is applied only to the next character, the L.

I copied your code and tried it in Latexit on my Macbook pro - no problem - it compiled it without a hitch, and displayed it just as you see it above. If this is indeed what it should look like, perhaps there is a code structure used here that your other software doesn't support? Or perhaps it's something so glaringly simple that we all miss it at first shot.

[tex] \left(\frac{\partial \mathcal L(a_1,…a_n, …;\dot a_1,..,\dot a_n, …;t)}{\partial a_i}\right) - \left(\frac{d}{dy} \frac{\partial \mathcal L(a_1,…a_n, …;\dot a_1,..,\dot a_n, …;t)}{\partial \dot a_i}\right) = 0 \quad \text{for } i = 1, \dots, n, i \neq j[/tex]

and no, \text is designed specifically to be used inside displays like this, so we no longer have to work with those annoying little boxes to get the formatting correct. textrm would probably work too, but I don't think this is where the problem might be.
 
statdad said:
no, \text is designed specifically to be used inside displays like this, so we no longer have to work with those annoying little boxes to get the formatting correct. textrm would probably work too, but I don't think this is where the problem might be.

Well, I just ran the input in a boring tex file (i.e. something that looked like \documentclass{article}\begin{document}$$math$$\end{document}), and I got an "undefined control sequence" error for \text, which this went away with \textrm.By the way, to the OP, you should replace "..." with "\ldots".
 
cristo said:
Well, I just ran the input in a boring tex file (i.e. something that looked like \documentclass{article}\begin{document}$$math$$\end{document}), and I got an "undefined control sequence" error for \text, which this went away with \textrm.


By the way, to the OP, you should replace "..." with "\ldots".

Bingo - \text works when the amsmath package is used - if you don't have it in your preamble you get the undefined control sequence error.

I don't know how the interpreters for this site and the OPs blogs are set up, but it would seem that the default settings here load amsmath while the other sites do not.
 
cristo said:
By the way, to the OP, you should replace "..." with "\ldots".

Thankyou. This was the problem :)
 

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