Decays possible? Parity conservation, bosons, fermions

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The discussion revolves around the possible decays of the particle ##P^0## into pairs of pions, specifically examining the decays ##P^0 -> \prod^+ \prod^-## and ##P^0 -> \prod^0 \prod^0##. The participants explore the implications of parity conservation and the characteristics of bosons and fermions in the context of these decays.

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  • Participants discuss the parity and angular momentum conservation requirements for the decays, questioning the implications of identical versus non-identical particles on the symmetry of the wavefunction. There is a focus on understanding how these properties affect the allowed decays.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts related to particle identity and symmetry. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of identical particles and the relevance of symmetry in decay processes, but no consensus has been reached on the implications for the specific decays in question.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation of the particle ##P## and its identification, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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1. Homework Statement

The question is to determine which decays are possible for:

i) ##P^0 ->\prod^+ \prod^-##
ii)##P^0 ->\prod^0 \prod^0##

Homework Equations



where ##J^p = 0^-, 1^- ## respectively for ##\prod^+, \prod^- , \prod^0## and ##P^0## respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution



For part i, the LHS has odd parity. ##P=(-1)^l##, so on the RHS we require ##l## to be odd.
Also need to conserve total angular momentum ##J=(l+s)+(l+s-1)+...+ | l-s |## *
On LHS ##J=1.##
##s=0##, so conservation gives ##l=-1## , which is consistent with an odd parity , so the decay is allowed.

part ii) We have the same J and P arguments, so I would have concluded the decay is possible.
The solution however is that is not because the RHS now has 2 identical bosons so the final wavefunction must be symmetric under the exchange of the two neutral pions. However this requires that the orbital angular momentum is even, so we have inconsistency.

So here's what I know :
If you swap 2 bosons the wave function has to be unchanged, but if you swap 2 fermions the wave function changes sign.
So , with this, I now don't see why we can't apply the argument to the decay in part i) - unless this property is only true for a system of identical particles??

More importantly, I don't follow the argument completely: The angular momentum being odd or even, i.e- as far as I can see the only way for ##l## to creep in, comes from the parity being odd or even- ##P=(-1)^l##, but parity is describing how the wave function behaves under a change from ##\vec r ## to ##\vec -r## So what has this got to do with swapping 2 bosons? The only possible argument I can think of would be along the lines of considering the particular case were one of the particles is situated at ##\vec r ## and the other at ##\vec -r## when we swap the bosons position??Thanks in advance !
 
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binbagsss said:
unless this property is only true for a system of identical particles??
That is the point.
Swapping two non-identical particles leads to a completely different system, where no symmetry is relevant. Only swapping two identical particles has an interesting result.

What is P, by the way? ##\rho##?
 
mfb said:
That is the point.
Swapping two non-identical particles leads to a completely different system, where no symmetry is relevant. Only swapping two identical particles has an interesting result.

What is P, by the way? ##\rho##?

##P## is the parity.
 
I mean the particle that decays. I do not recognize capital P as a particle name, only p for protons but that does not make sense here.
 

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