Decide Between Waterloo/Queens/UBC Physics & Engineering Degrees

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for choosing between physics and engineering programs at Waterloo, Queens, and UBC. Participants explore the implications of their choices on future academic and career paths, including considerations of co-op opportunities and the flexibility of transferring between programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for Waterloo's physics program due to its co-op system, which offers varied research experiences and a pathway to grad school.
  • Another participant suggests that Queens Engineering Physics allows for exploration of different engineering disciplines in the first year and provides a safety net with an engineering degree if they decide against a science career.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of Queens' co-op program compared to Waterloo's, with some suggesting that independent summer work opportunities exist at Queens.
  • A participant shares their experience of transitioning from engineering to physics, noting that the first-year courses are often similar, which can facilitate switching programs.
  • Another viewpoint advocates for Queens Engineering Physics, highlighting the potential to take upper-level physics courses and eligibility for professional engineering status, while questioning the perceived advantages of Waterloo's co-op program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the merits of each program, with no consensus reached on which option is superior. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on co-op opportunities, program flexibility, and career implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the ease of transferring between programs and the nature of co-op experiences, but these points remain unresolved and depend on individual circumstances and institutional policies.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering physics or engineering degrees, particularly those weighing the benefits of co-op programs and the flexibility of their academic choices.

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I have until June 1st/2nd to decide my university

I am still torn between engineering and science, though I am leaning towards science (if I had to choose one).

With Waterloo physics, I could use the co-op system as a way to gain some (hopefully paid) research experience and then go on to grad school (I feel like grad school is almost a must if I go the science route).

With Queens Engineering Physics, I can learn more about each eng in 1st year (you declare your eng major in 2nd year). Also, I have the option to pursue physics in grad school, but it isn't a must as I can fall back on the engineering degree if I change my mind about a science career. However, its co-op program is one year-long term, while Waterloo has 4-6 four month terms (Waterloo's would give me more varied experiences in different careers and positions).

As a wildcard, I am also considering UBC science because I can transfer to its Engineering Physics program in my 2nd year. Its co-op system is similar to Waterloo's. Distance from home is a factor preventing me from seriously considering it though.Is anyone familiar with these schools/programs and can anyone give me advice on what to do?
Is it better to keep my options open with an Engineering Physics degree or should I just commit to Physics (what I'm leaning towards) and do well enough to make it into and through grad school?

Help is appreciated, Thanks
 
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Hey, I'm kind of thinking the same thing, only with Mcgill physics isntead of waterloo. But, from what I've researched, its easier to transfer from engineering to science (especially from engineering pphysics) than it is from sciences. And from what people tell me, its usually better to get a professional degree (ie engineering) than a non professional. That said, queens co-op is inferior to waterloo's, but you do have oppertunity to find work independantly during the summers (this way the uni doesn't take a % from you either)

Thats pretty much what I concluded.
 


cvdfer157 said:
But, from what I've researched, its easier to transfer from engineering to science (especially from engineering pphysics) than it is from sciences.

At the undergrad level, and only in the first couple (one?) years.

I started in engineering and after the first year decided to stick with physics. I didn't have to make up any classes because the first year of engineering at my school was the same as first year science, plus four more classes.

If I had done just the first year science, I would have had to make up the engineering classes if I wanted to switch to engineering.
 


I'd go with Queens Eng. Phys. You're going to take many upper level physics courses (ie. a couple QM courses), you can still go to graduate school in physics if you wish after graduation. You'll be eligible to become a professional engineer. If I were you the only way I'd go with Waterloo physics is if I was dead set on academia (which is probably not a good thing). The waterloo co-op program is really not as good as you think. A lot of their students get employed by the university. For example, when I visited the engineering department the guy who gave me a tour was actually on his co-op term just doing random **** for the department.
 

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