Deciding between Math or Physics for Gradschool

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for pursuing graduate studies in either mathematics or physics. Participants explore the implications of their academic backgrounds, interests, and potential career paths, including the feasibility of combining both fields in graduate studies.

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  • A participant expresses a strong affinity for both math and physics but leans towards pursuing a graduate degree in physics, considering the possibility of also obtaining a master's in math.
  • Concerns are raised about the job market for mathematical physicists, with some participants suggesting that there may be limited opportunities in this area.
  • Another participant suggests that math departments are increasingly involved in string theory research, implying potential job opportunities for those who excel in this area.
  • A viewpoint is shared that emphasizes the importance of studying subjects that genuinely interest the individual, noting that technical degrees generally lead to employment, often in engineering roles.
  • A question is posed regarding the distinction between theoretical and mathematical physics at the graduate level.
  • A response clarifies that theoretical physics focuses on making predictions about physical phenomena, while mathematical physics may involve more abstract work, such as proving theorems or exploring mathematical frameworks without direct physical predictions.

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Participants express differing opinions on the job market for mathematical physicists, with some suggesting opportunities exist while others caution against pursuing this path. The distinction between theoretical and mathematical physics is acknowledged, but the implications of this difference are not fully resolved.

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Participants' views on job prospects and the nature of graduate studies reflect personal experiences and perceptions, which may not encompass the full range of opportunities available in academia or industry.

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Currently I am in my junior year at Western Kentucky University.
I am a math and physics double major with a minor in astronomy. While here I have worked with a professor on extrasolar planet transit detection alogrithms and did reasearch this summer in nuclear astrophysics at clemson university. This coming semester I am going to be working with a math professor in advanced group theory.

Courses Taken

Physics and Astronomy.
Univesrity Physics 1 and Lab
Univesrity Physics 2 and Lab
University Physics 3 and Lab
Circuit Theory
Electronics Lab
Modern Physics 1
Modern Physics 2
Atomic lab
Introducatory Astrophysics
Observational Astronomy.

Mathematics
Calc 1
Calc 2
Multivariable Calculus
Partial Differential Equatoins
Ordinary Differential Equations
Linear Algebra
Discrete Mathematics
Abstract Algebra 1
Abstract Algebra 2

I love math and physics both. However I can see myself going a semester without physics but however couldn't imagine a semester without a math class. My problem is which do I go to gradschool for?
I love both and was thinking about going for physics and work on a master in math at the same time if it is possible to do. I am more of a theoretical person than experimentalist as I have learned. Is it posibble to do both. Lately I've been looking at schools that offer graduate degree in mathematical physics but my physics professors have told me time after time there is no jobs in it and it is useless to go into. Is this true or is it possible to get a teaching job at a university as a mathematical physicist.

Thanks for your time,
Karatechop
 
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Sorry about the poor grammar quality. I should have proofread it before posting it.
 
if you think you've got the cojones, you could go to math graduate school since math departments these days are actually where much of the work in string theory is happening. And there are definitely still jobs in string theory... provided you are wicked smart and all that jazz...
 
I'd study whatever you find interesting. If you have a technical degree, you will find work. It probably will be as an engineer, but only about 4% of the people who study physics get to really work in physics anyway.

We have at our company:

Astronomers working in optics
Geophysics and math majors working in software
Physics majors working in algorthm design
etc.
 
Is there a difference between theoretical and mathematical physics at grad level?
 
yes there is a difference, theoretical physics still tries to make predictions of physical things with their work. Mathematical physics has no such restriction, you can write papers on things such as axiomizing quantum field theory, clever math tricks to do physics problems, or just interesting facts about various theories. Mathematical physics faculty actually prove theorems, physics faculty tries to come up with new physics.
 

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