Decoding some prime number conjectures

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The discussion revolves around conjectures related to prime numbers, specifically focusing on the existence of prime numbers and twin primes within certain intervals defined by natural numbers. Participants explore mathematical definitions, the validity of conjectures, and the implications of specific theorems.

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  • One participant asserts that there exist at least two prime numbers between \(N^2\) and \((N+1)^2\) for natural numbers \(N\), and at least one twin-prime pair between \(N^2\) and \((N+2)^2\) for odd natural numbers \(N\), suggesting the twin prime conjecture is true.
  • Another participant points out a broken link to a paper and notes that it was withdrawn due to a serious error, specifically mentioning that Lemma 8 is incorrect.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity and correctness of a mathematical definition involving \(\Psi_m\), with questions about the use of functions and dimensionality.
  • Participants discuss a typo regarding the "Twim Prime Conjecture," which was corrected to "Twin Prime Conjecture." However, questions remain about the definition of \(\Phi\).
  • Several participants inquire about the conditions under which \(N(f)\) is empty when \(a=1\) in a specific theorem, with examples provided that challenge the assertion that \(N(f)\) must be empty.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the approach of sieving integers using a family of functions, while also questioning the claim that \(N(f)\) is infinite for all other functions without further proof.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of conjectures and the implications of specific mathematical definitions. There is no consensus on the correctness of the claims regarding \(N(f)\) and the conditions under which it is empty.

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Some definitions and mathematical steps remain unclear or unresolved, particularly regarding the functions and conjectures discussed. The implications of certain theorems are also questioned without definitive proof provided.

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1. THERE EXISTS AT LEAST TWO PRIMES NUMBERS BETWEEN N^2 AND (N+1)^2, WHERE N IS A NATURAL NUMBER.

2. THERE EXISTS AT LEAST ONE TWIN-PRIME PAIR BETWEEN N^2 AND (N+2)^2, WHERE N IS AN ODD NATURAL NUMBER.
(THEREFORE THE TWIN PRIME CONJECTURE IS TRUE)
anyone will a powerful system can verify them.

Below is a link to the first of three papers aimed at possibly settling some prime number conjectures.

In this article, we present a simple approach to tackling most prime number conjectures.

The main statement is presented as a conjecture.

http://addo.esmartdesign.com/3e.htm"

CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS ARE WELCOME.
 
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The link to the Arenstorf paper is broken; the correct URL is http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0405509/. The paper was withdrawn by its author: "A serious error has been found in the paper, specifically, Lemma 8 is incorrect."

Your definition of \Psi_m doesn't appear to be well-formed; I'm sure you have something particular in mind, but I can't get through the peculiar use of symbols. You seem to mean something like \Psi_m:\mathbb{N}^m\to\mathbb{N} with
\Psi_m(x_1,\ldots,x_m)=\prod_{i=0}^mf_i(x_1,\ldots,x_m)+\underline{\alpha}(x_1,\ldots,x_m)=m\alpha+\prod_{i=0}^mf_i(x_1,\ldots,x_m)
but the functions f are
f_i(x)=a_ix+b_i
for a_i\in\{1,2,\ldots\},b_i\in\{0,1,2,\ldots\}, but then you're using a one-dimensional function as an m-dimensional function.

I don't understand the purpose of your class of functions \underline{x}(a) which ignore their all of their arguments. These are constants (nullary functions) more than projection functions.

Little stuff: "Twim Prime Conjecture" should be "Twin Prime Conjecture" (p. 1). The TeX for quotes is `quotation', not 'quotation'.
 
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The link to the Arenstorf paper is broken; the correct URL is http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0405509/. The paper was withdrawn by its author: "A serious error has been found in the paper, specifically, Lemma 8 is incorrect."

Your definition of \Psi_m doesn't appear to be well-formed; I'm sure you have something particular in mind, but I can't get through the peculiar use of symbols. You seem to mean something like \Psi_m:\mathbb{N}^m\to\mathbb{N} with
\Psi_m(x_1,\ldots,x_m)=\prod_{i=0}^mf_i(x_1,\ldots,x_m)+\underline{\alpha}(x_1,\ldots,x_m)=m\alpha+\prod_{i=0}^mf_i(x_1,\ldots,x_m)
but the functions f are
f_i(x)=a_ix+b_i
for a_i\in\{1,2,\ldots\},b_i\in\{0,1,2,\ldots\}, but then you're using a one-dimensional function as an m-dimensional function.

I don't understand the purpose of your class of projection functions \underline{x}(a) which ignore their arguments.

Little stuff: "Twim Prime Conjecture" should be "Twin Prime Conjecture" (p. 1). The TeX for quotes is `quotation', not 'quotation'.

THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT! IT WAS SIMPLY A TYPO. THE CORRECTION HAS BEEN MADE. THANKS
 
bonzion said:
THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT! IT WAS SIMPLY A TYPO. THE CORRECTION HAS BEEN MADE. THANKS

What was a typo? How are you defining Phi now?
 
Just a little comment: In case I of theorem 4.1, why N(f) is empty when a=1? In page 6, the second example, h(x)=x+6, has N(h) = {1,2,3,4,5,6}.
 
Dodo said:
Just a little comment: In case I of theorem 4.1, why N(f) is empty when a=1? In page 6, the second example, h(x)=x+6, has N(h) = {1,2,3,4,5,6}.

N(h) = {1,2,3,4,5,6} since M(h)={7,8,9,10,11,...}
 
Right. Then why N(f) is empty when a=1, on case I of theorem 4.1?

h(x)=x+6 is an example of a function where a=1, yet N(f) is not empty.
 
Dodo said:
Right. Then why N(f) is empty when a=1, on case I of theorem 4.1?

h(x)=x+6 is an example of a function where a=1, yet N(f) is not empty.

HI THERE, THERE WAS A LINK TO TWO ARTICLES. PLEASE TRY AGAIN. I GUESS YOU CLICKED BEFORE THE CHANGE. THANKS
 
Thanks, now I see the change.

I have another comment. Please consider that I am a pregrad student, and that I find very nice what you're trying to do: you sieve the integers using a family of functions, and then try to deduce properties of the sieved set out of properties of the sieving functions. This is so cool, IMO. All the more reason to demand precision in the argument.

Theorem 4.1, cases I-III, show some function families where N(f) is finite, yet this is presented as an "if and only if", and claimed that for all other functions N(f) is infinite, without further proof.

Personally I don't find that so obvious. Look, for example, at all the effort put to show that there are infinite prime numbers. Does the proof that, for all other functions, N(f) is infinite, follow a similar pattern? Can you give a hint? Thanks.
 

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