Defibrillator Physics: Solving for Potential Difference

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the physics of a defibrillator, specifically focusing on calculating the potential difference required for a capacitor given its capacitance and the energy delivered to the heart. The subject area includes concepts from electricity and energy storage in capacitors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between energy, capacitance, and potential difference using the equation U = 1/2C(ΔV)^2. There are attempts to manipulate this equation to isolate ΔV. Questions arise regarding the values of capacitance and energy, with some confusion about units and their implications.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify the variables involved and questioning the correctness of the equation and the values used. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the capacitance unit, with suggestions that the original poster may have meant microfarads instead of farads. Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the physical context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the units of capacitance (9 ìF vs. 9 F) and energy (300 J), which may affect the calculations. Participants are also considering the practical aspects of defibrillator technology and how it relates to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement



A defibrillator is used to restart a person's heart after it stops beating. Energy is delivered to the heart by discharging a capacitor through the body tissues near the heart. If the capacitance of the defibrillator is 9 ìF and the energy delivered is to be 300 J, to what potential difference must the capacitor be charged?

Homework Equations



U = 1/2C(delta V)^2.


The Attempt at a Solution



Could someone get me started on this problem?
 
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If you have U = 1/2C(delta V)^2 and you know U and C, why can't you calculate delta V?
 


Hmm. I never had this problem before..

I would use U = 1/2C(Delta V) ^2

U / Delta V^2 = 1 / 2C

1 / Delta V^2 = U / 2C

Delta V^2 = 2C / U

Delta V = sqrt( 2C / U )

But what are C and U?

C = 900J and U = 9iF??

so V = sqrt( 2*900J / 9iF ) = 14.14 J/iF?
 


That just doesn't seem right to me. I am not even sure if the equation is the right one to use.
 


lampshader said:
Hmm. I never had this problem before..

I would use U = 1/2C(Delta V) ^2

U / Delta V^2 = 1 / 2C

1 / Delta V^2 = U / 2C

:bugeye:

Delta V^2 = 2C / U

Delta V = sqrt( 2C / U )

Perhaps you should try it this way,

U = \frac{1}{2}CV^2

2U = CV^2 (Multiplied both sides by 2)

\frac{2U}{C} = V^2 (Divided both sides by C)

\sqrt{\frac{2U}{C}} = V (took the square root)

But what are C and U?

C = 900J and U = 9iF??

Wait, 900 J? I thought it was 300 J.

In terms of the "iF" units, Are you sure it's not just "F"? Capacitors are measured in Farads. The abbreviation for a Farad is simply F. You can break down the Farad unit to be Coulombs/Volt.

9 F is a fairly large capacitor. However, it is not out of the question. Using today's ultra-capacitor technology, you could hold a 9 F ultra-capacitor in the palm of your hand.

By the way, when you finish calculating the voltage, it may not seem like very much. I'm assuming that there is a voltage converter involved in the defibrillator, not applicable to this problem (we're only dealing with the capacitor itself, not the entire defibrillator).

[Edit]: It's still possible to store the same energy in a much smaller valued capacitor, albeit at a higher voltage. It could very well be that the author of the problem meant uF (as in micro Farad), since the 'u' is right next to the 'i' on the keyboard. But if it was up to me, I'd design the thing with a 9 F ultra-capacitor. Ultra-capacitors are cool. :cool:
 
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