Definite product of zero and infinity?

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The discussion centers on whether the product of zero and infinity can be defined as a finite quantity, highlighting the complexities of limits in calculus. It explores examples from differential and integral calculus, where functions approaching zero and infinity can yield various limits, but emphasizes that the product of zero and infinity is generally considered undefined. The conversation also touches on physical laws, like Boyle's law, questioning their validity at extreme values of pressure and volume. Additionally, it raises philosophical inquiries about the nature of vacuums and energy, suggesting that vacuums may contain energy fluctuations despite being termed "nothing." Overall, the thread illustrates the intricate relationship between mathematics and physics when dealing with concepts of infinity and zero.
  • #31
These do have uses in applied mathematics and are called infinitesimals, rigorously dt is a 1 form, and rearranging antonios equation yields a 1 form = a function which is not permitted, you've canceled things that can't be canelled, and your manipulations omit many equalities that need to be satisfied, you should always write out in full.

a/c is (1/c)dv/dt

I don't see how you took any of the steps above without implicitly assuming some things that you've not told us, such as somehow deciding that dv/c = 1, which is amazing as c is a constant.
 
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  • #32
Is the following limits acceptable in mathematics?

[tex] \lim_{dt\rightarrow 0} \frac {1}{dt} = \infty [/tex]

[tex] \lim_{dt\rightarrow \infty} \frac{1}{dt} = 0 [/tex]

[tex] \lim_{dt\rightarrow a} \frac {1}{dt} = \frac {1}{a} [/tex]
 
  • #33
The last one is invalid if a = 0...
 
  • #34
Thanks. But if a=0, it is just the first one again. Physically speaking, can absolute time (absolute spacetime) ever be zero? Spacetime is not defined at the singularity.
 
  • #35
Try reading Segal's original papers to see the formalization of zero time.
 
  • #36
Thanks. I will start looking where I can get hold of this paper.
 

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