Do Sigma-Algebras Need to Include the Empty Set and Underlying Set?

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The discussion clarifies that a sigma-algebra \(\mathcal{F}\) over a set \(\Omega\) does not need to explicitly include the empty set or the underlying set \(\Omega\) as elements. While many sources, including Wikipedia, state that either \(\Omega\) or the empty set must be included, the text "Probability: Theory and Examples" by Durrett does not impose this requirement. Instead, it emphasizes closure under complements and countable unions, leading to the conclusion that the empty set is inherently included due to the properties of sigma-algebras.

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I had a quick question concerning the definition of a \sigma-algebra \mathcal{F} over a set \Omega. Most sources I've seen (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-algebra ) require that \Omega or the empty set be an element of \mathcal{F}.

Is this necessary? I ask because I am looking at "Probability: Theory and Examples" by Durrett, and he does not state that as a requirement. He only requires that an element's complement be in \mathcal{F} and that countable (possibly infinite) unions of elements (in the set) remain in the set. Additionally, he says that \mathcal{F} \neq \emptyset, but this does not necessarily imply that the empty set is in \mathcal{F}.

So, has Durrett just forgotten to include this? Do his later results assume this requirement? Or is it the case this is an unnecessary requirement?
 
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Specifically, he states:

if A_i \in \mathcal{F} is a countable sequence of sets then \cup_i A_i \in \mathcal{F}

I think this is my answer. Let the sequence consist of only the set \mathcal{F}. Then \mathcal{F} (and hence the empty set as well) is in \mathcal{F}.

Correct?
 
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I had a quick question concerning the definition of a \sigma-algebra \mathcal{F} over a set \Omega. Most sources I've seen (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-algebra ) require that \Omega or the empty set be an element of \mathcal{F}.

Is this necessary? I ask because I am looking at "Probability: Theory and Examples" by Durrett, and he does not state that as a requirement. He only requires that an element's complement be in \mathcal{F} and that countable (possibly infinite) unions of elements (in the set) remain in the set. Additionally, he says that \mathcal{F} \neq \emptyset, but this does not necessarily imply that the empty set is in \mathcal{F}.

So, has Durrett just forgotten to include this? Do his later results assume this requirement? Or is it the case this is an unnecessary requirement?

let \mathcal{F} be a sigma algebra over a set \Omega
since \mathcal{F} in noempty there exists an A\in\mathcal{F} since \mathcal{F} is a sigma algebra A^c\in\mathcal{F} and A\bigcup A^c=\Omega\in\mathcal{F}
 
a sigma algebra R on a set X is a nonempty collection of sets satisfying the following:
i) R closed under complements
ii) R closed under countable unions
& that's all

we can derive the fact that the set X on which the algebra is defined, is in R and also the empty set. the empty set is in every sigma algebra because if E is in R, then E\E (=empty set) is in R since R is closed under complementation. also E union E' = X is also in R. so no, the definition doesn't need to include anything about the empty set or the underlying set X is in the algebra.
 

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