Delay of JWST a Major Setback for Astronomy

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The discussion revolves around the delays and cost overruns associated with the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) and its implications for the future of astronomical research, particularly in relation to the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) and other missions like the Herschel telescope. Participants explore the significance of JWST within NASA's priorities and its expected contributions to astronomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that despite the cost growth, JWST remains a priority mission for NASA, citing its potential contributions akin to those of Hubble.
  • Others question whether JWST is truly a priority, especially with the upcoming launch of the Herschel telescope, which may fulfill some similar scientific goals.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of JWST's delays on the retirement of Hubble, with some expressing dissatisfaction over the perceived lack of transparency regarding JWST's role as a successor.
  • A participant notes that JWST's position at L2 limits its ability to be serviced, contrasting it with Hubble, which has had servicing missions.
  • Some participants highlight the differences in capabilities between JWST and Hubble, particularly the lack of ultraviolet observation capabilities in JWST, which could pose challenges for astronomers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the significance of JWST and its relationship to Hubble. While some view JWST as essential, others raise doubts about its priority and capabilities, indicating that multiple competing views remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the uncertainty surrounding the future of Hubble and the implications of JWST's operational capabilities, particularly in relation to servicing and the types of observations each telescope can perform.

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http://www.space.com/spacenews/businessmonday_051121.html"

A $1 billion dollar cost growth on the mission is a lot, but considering the value and continuing contributions of Hubble to this very day, I think we can all agree that the JWST is a priority mission for NASA’s universe division.

Would Bush’s New Vision for Space Exploration by any chance be a contributing cause behind this?

At least they’re not cutting costs by reducing the size of the mirror!
 
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Vast said:
I think we can all agree that the JWST is a priority mission for NASA’s universe division.
Maybe JWST is not a priority, considering that the ESA will launch the Herschel (infrared telescope to be located at L2, same as JWST) already in 2007.
 
hellfire said:
Maybe JWST is not a priority, considering that the ESA will launch the Herschel (infrared telescope to be located at L2, same as JWST) already in 2007.
I noticed that Herschel is about half the weight of the JWST at 6,200 kg, opposed to 3300 kg for Herschel which is being launched simultaneously with Planck, this might further reduce the cost of both those missions, which I think are also part of NASA’s universe division. Anyway, these are also two very important missions, and hopefully if all goes to plan and remains on schedule for a July 2007 launch, will have great scientific returns.

Sorry, not part of NASA, http://science.hq.nasa.gov/missions/universe.html"
 
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http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/project_highlights/SAT_report_interim.pdf"

http://www.stsci.edu/jwst/project_highlights/SAT_report_final.pdf"

The SAT was created in June 2005 by NASA to provide an independent analysis of the scientific goals of the JWST mission.

JWST is identified in the National Academy’s Astronomy and Astrophysics in the New Millennium as the top priority among all major initiatives.

NASA’s Strategic Roadmaps Universe Exploration and Search for Habitable Planets confirm its importance in their long-term plans for space science.
 
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I'm very unhappy with this. JWST was supposed to explain why HST would be retired. Apparently, that was just smoke and mirrors.
 
Chronos said:
I'm very unhappy with this. JWST was supposed to explain why HST would be retired. Apparently, that was just smoke and mirrors.

A servicing mission to Hubble is expected to take place late 2007 early 2008, that’s if the Shuttle Program gets back on its feat. The cost of this mission is another reason for retiring Hubble. As the JWST has an expected lifetime of 10 years, from the negative reaction of retiring Hubble, it might be wise to anticipate a similar situation with the end of JWST mission. But I have no doubt that the JWST is a much needed scope for space, unfortunately it’s L2 position, 1.5 million km from Earth, doesn’t give it the luxury of any servicing missions? Perhaps 15 years down the road we’ll be able to send a robotic servicing mission?
 
Chronos said:
I'm very unhappy with this. JWST was supposed to explain why HST would be retired. Apparently, that was just smoke and mirrors.

JWST really isn't a replacement for Hubble, since the latter had UV capabilities and the former is working mostly in the IR. The lack of a good satellite for observing in the UV is going to be a big problem for many astronomers...
 

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