Density of a sphere that has a cavity

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The discussion revolves around determining the density of a sphere that contains a cavity, specifically in the context of buoyancy and the relationship between the sphere's volume and the volume of water displaced. The problem involves concepts from fluid mechanics and material density.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between buoyant force and gravitational force, questioning how the volume of the cavity affects the overall density of the sphere. There are attempts to derive relationships between the volumes of the sphere, the cavity, and the displaced water.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided alternative equations and reasoning regarding the buoyancy of the sphere, while others have pointed out potential inaccuracies in the assumptions made about the density of materials involved. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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There are references to specific densities of materials, such as iron and water, and the need for accurate values in the calculations. Participants also note that assumptions stated in the problem may not align with commonly accepted values.

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At least what percentage of an iron sphere must have cavity, so that the sphere floats on water?
##(\rho _{iron}=5 \times 10^3 kg/m^3 , \rho _{water}=10^3 kg/m^3). ##
Relevant Equations
##Density=mass/Volume.##
The sphere floats on water so we should have: ##F_b=F_g##
The buoyant force is equal to the weight of the displaced fluid, so : ##\rho _wV_wg=\rho _sV_sg##
(w: water, s: sphere)
From last equation we have : ##V_w=\frac {\rho _s}{\rho _w} V_s \rightarrow V_w=5 V_s ##
The volume of displaced water(##V_w##) is equal to the apparent volume of the part of sphere that is inside the water( ##V_w=## Apparent volume of the part of sphere that is inside the water).
I also know that ##V_s## is the true volume of sphere(##V_s=## True volume of sphere).

Volume of cavity(##V_{cavity}##) = Apparent volume of sphere(##V_{apparent}##) ##-## True volume of sphere(##V_{s}##) ##\rightarrow##
##V_{cavity}=V_{apparent}-V_s##
If we put ##V_{apparent}=V_w## then we have: ##V_{cavity}=V_{w}-V_s=\frac 4 5 V_w=\frac 4 5 V_{apparent}##
So the answer is: ##80##%

I think ##V_{apparent}## should be equal to ##V_w##(Apparent volume of the part of sphere that is inside the water) because the question asks for the minimum cavity volume. And the volume of the cavity is minimized when the sphere is completely immersed in water because the more the volume of the cavity decreases, the more water is moved to balance the forces.

Am I right?!
 
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Alternatively:

$$F_b = F_w$$

$$ \rho_{water} \cancel{g} V \llap{-}_s = \rho_{iron} \left( V \llap{-}_s - V \llap{-}_c \right) \cancel{g} $$

$$ \implies \frac{ V \llap{-}_c }{V \llap{-}_s} = \frac{\rho_{iron} - \rho_{water}}{\rho_{iron}} = \frac{4}{5}$$
 
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FYI, you are not using the commonly accepted density of iron.
 
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Frabjous said:
FYI, you are not using the commonly accepted density of iron.
This assumption was stated in the question(not in my answer). And yes, it is not true. Thank you.
 
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