Derivation of Instantaneous Velocity

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of instantaneous velocity from a position vector defined as r(t)=(3.0m/s^2)t\hat{x}+(4.0m/s)t\hat{y}. Participants are examining the differences between their calculations and a textbook solution.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the position vector to find instantaneous velocity but questions the correctness of their result compared to the book's answer. Other participants discuss unit handling and the implications of the terms in the velocity expression, with some suggesting that the original poster may have misunderstood the relationship between the components and their units.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying unit conversions and the meaning of terms in the context of velocity. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the representation of the velocity components, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's understanding.

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Some participants note the challenges of interpreting university-level physics material at a high school level, which may contribute to the confusion regarding the calculations and units involved.

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Find the instantaneous velocity where r is the position vector as a function of time:
r(t)=(3.0m/s^2)t\hat{x}+(4.0m/s)t\hat{y}

I attempted to find the derivative of this to find instantaneous velocity, but the book's solution was different. I think the author of the book may have made a mistake, but if not, I would like to know what I've done wrong.
My answer: v(t)=(6.0m/s)t\hat{x}+(4.0m/s)\hat{y}
Book's answer: v(t)=(6.0m/s^2)t\hat{x}+(4.0m/s)\hat{y}
 
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0x5B said:
r(t)=(3.0m/s^2)t\hat{x}+(4.0m/s)t\hat{y}

Should this be:

r(t) = 3t2 \hat{x} + 4t \hat{y}

Then

r'(t) = 6t \hat{x} + 4 \hat{y}

as you and the book found.

Units for velocity are in m/s so '6' is '6 m/s2' and '4' is '4 m/s'
so I agree with the book :)

When you multiply m/s2 by seconds, the result is m/s
 
Ah, thank you, I was unsure of how to handle the units and being in only ninth grade I wasn't so sure about calling out a university level physics book on a mistake.
 
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0x5B said:
Ah, thank you, I was unsure of how to handle the units and being in only ninth grade I wasn't so sure about calling out a university level physics book on a mistake.

Oh, there are mistakes... later editions and more elementary level tends to reduce the number of errors.

At ninth grade the math will probably get in your way but it's good to see some early interest :)
 
Hmm... Taking a second look, I'm not sure we're on the same page. The '6t' should represent (6m/s^2), not just the '6', so it should be (6m/s^2) not (6m/s^2)*t, right? Or am I still missing something? I apologize for such a protracted conversation about something as simple as the units.
 
0x5B said:
Hmm... Taking a second look, I'm not sure we're on the same page. The '6t' should represent (6m/s^2), not just the '6', so it should be (6m/s^2) not (6m/s^2)*t, right? Or am I still missing something? I apologize for such a protracted conversation about something as simple as the units.

The x component of the velocity is x(t) = 6t so '6t' is the horizontal velocity in m/s. It is changing with time that is why the t is there. At time 0, the horizontal velocity is x(0)=0 m/s. At time t=1, the horizontal velocity is x(1)=(6 m/s2)*(1 s) = 6 m/s

The units of x(t) are m/s. 't' is in seconds so that means the units of the constant '6' must be m/s2. m/s2 * s = m/s (cancel out one of the 's')
 
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Ah, again, thank you. In hindsight, this was such an obvious oversight on my part.
 

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