Derivative of function with a natural log in the exponent

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function \( f(x) = 2^{\ln x} \). Participants explore various methods for differentiation, including logarithmic differentiation and the application of the power rule.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using logarithmic differentiation by taking the natural logarithm of both sides, leading to \( \ln f(x) = \ln x \ln 2 \).
  • Others propose rewriting the function as \( f(x) = e^{(\ln 2) \ln x} = x^{\ln 2} \) to facilitate differentiation.
  • A participant questions the correctness of their differentiation steps, particularly regarding the treatment of constants like \( \ln 2 \) and the application of the derivative rules.
  • Another participant mentions that the derivative of \( \ln x \) is \( \frac{1}{x} \), which leads to a correction regarding the treatment of constants in differentiation.
  • One participant introduces a formula for differentiating exponential functions, stating that \( \frac{d}{dx} a^u = a^u \ln(a) \frac{du}{dx} \), applying it to the current function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the final derivative expression, as participants present different approaches and calculations, leading to some uncertainty about the correct steps and results.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of derivative rules and the treatment of constants, indicating that some assumptions may not be fully articulated or agreed upon.

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Supposing we have $f(x) = {2}^{lnx}$, how would we find $f'(x)$?
 
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tmt said:
Supposing we have $f(x) = {2}^{lnx}$, how would we find $f'(x)$?

you can take log on both sides to get

ln f(x) = ln x ln 2
and differentiate both sides

alternatively

$f(x) = 2^{ln x} =e^{(ln 2) ln x} = x^{ln 2}$ and now you can differentiate
 
kaliprasad said:
you can take log on both sides to get

ln f(x) = ln x ln 2
and differentiate both sides

alternatively

$f(x) = 2^{ln x} =e^{(ln 2) ln x} = x^{ln 2}$ and now you can differentiate

So the answer would be ${2}^{lnx} (\frac{1}{2} lnx + \frac{1}{x} ln2)$ ?
 
tmt said:
So the answer would be ${2}^{lnx} (\frac{1}{2} lnx + \frac{1}{x} ln2)$ ?

kindly show the steps
 
kaliprasad said:
kindly show the steps

Ok, if we take your second expression, with seems easier, we have ${x}^{ln2}$.

So, if we differentiate that, do we get something like: $ln2({x}^{ln2 - 1}) * \frac{1}{2}$. I'm not sure how to properly evaluate this. The $\frac{1}{2}$ comes from the derivative of $ln2$ but this seems incorrect.
 
tmt said:
Ok, if we take your second expression, with seems easier, we have ${x}^{ln2}$.

So, if we differentiate that, do we get something like: $ln2({x}^{ln2 - 1}) * \frac{1}{2}$. I'm not sure how to properly evaluate this. The $\frac{1}{2}$ comes from the derivative of $ln2$ but this seems incorrect.

No . derivative of ln x = 1/x but as ln 2 is constant derivative is zero

so we are left with $ln2({x}^{ln2 - 1})$ which is the result using $x^n$ derivative rule
 
It is also possible to do this without converting to "e", using the fact that \frac{a^u}{dx}= a^u ln(a) \frac{du}{dx}

Here, since u(x)= ln(x), \frac{du}{dx}= \frac{1}{x}.
\frac{d2^{ln(x)}}{dx}= \frac{2^{ln(x)}}{x}ln(2).
 

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