Derivatives, rates of change (triangle)

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The problem involves a plane flying horizontally at a fixed altitude and the relationship between the angle of elevation from a telescope on the ground and the horizontal distance of the plane from the telescope. The context is within the subject area of calculus, specifically focusing on derivatives and rates of change.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply trigonometric relationships and derivatives to find the speed of the plane. Some participants question the definition of the angle of elevation and its implications on the calculations. Others suggest checking the time derivative of the relationship between the variables involved.

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Participants are actively discussing the problem, with some providing hints and clarifications regarding the relationships between the variables. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the angle of elevation and its role in the calculations, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the angle of elevation, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The original poster's calculations and the textbook answer indicate a discrepancy that is under discussion.

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1. A plane flies horizontally at an altitude of 5 km and passes directly over a tracking telescope on the ground. When the angle of elevation is \frac{\pi}{3}, this angle is decreasing at a rate of -\frac{\pi}{3} rad/min. How fast is the plane traveling at that time?



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$$tanθ=\frac{opp}{hyp}$$

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First I find the length of the top of the triangle, x. $$tan\frac{\pi}{3}=\frac{x}{5}$$ $$x=5\sqrt{3}$$
Then I take the derivative.
$$tanθ=\frac{x}{y}$$ $$sec^2x\frac{dθ}{dt}=\frac{y\frac{dx}{dt}-x\frac{dx}{dt}}{y^2}$$ The y, or altitude, is always constant so $$sec^2x\frac{dθ}{dt}=\frac{y\frac{dx}{dt}}{y^2}$$ $$sec^2\frac{\pi}{3}×-\frac{\pi}{6}×5=\frac{dx}{dt}$$ $$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{10}{3}\pi$$

The answer from my textbook is $$\frac{10}{9}\pi$$ What did I do wrong? Any help is much appreciated.
 
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Is the angle of elevation measured from the vertical or the horizontal?

Check the time-derivative of the equation: ##x=y\tan\theta##
 
I checked the time derivative of x=tany but I still get $$\frac{dx}{dt}=sec^2θ×\frac{dθ}{dt}×y$$

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That's good: $$\frac{dx}{dt}=y\sec^2\theta\frac{d\theta}{dt}$$

Now you have your answer.
Hint:
##dx/dt## is the linear speed.
##\sec(\pi/3)=2##

That leaves only the interpretation ... is the angle ##\theta## in that formula the angle of elevation?
See: http://www.mathwords.com/a/angle_elevation.htm
 

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