Deriving Capacitor Voltage for a Discharging Capacitor

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The discussion revolves around deriving the voltage waveform across a discharging capacitor that was initially charged by a DC power supply. The original poster attempts to establish the relationship between current, voltage, and charge as the capacitor discharges over time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and the relationships between charge, voltage, and current in the context of a discharging capacitor. There are attempts to derive the current and voltage expressions, with some questioning the dimensional correctness of the derived equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on checking dimensional consistency during derivations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct expressions for current and voltage, with multiple interpretations being discussed without a clear consensus on the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing potential errors in the initial derivation and are considering the implications of the assumptions made regarding the relationships between voltage, current, and charge.

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Homework Statement


I'm trying to derive the voltage waveform across the capacitor for a discharging capacitor that has been fully charged by a DC power supply ##v_0##, i.e. ##v_c(t=0)=v_0## and then at ##t=0## the switch is flipped and the capacitor starts to discharge.
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From KVL we obtain
$$v_c=\frac{q}{c}=iR$$
Taking the time derivative of this and since capacitor is discharging ##-\frac{dq}{dt}=i##... $$-\frac{i}{RC}=\frac{di}{dt}\\ -\int_0^t \frac{dt}{RC}=\int_{i_0}^{i}\frac{di}{i}\\ -\frac{t}{RC}=\ln (\frac{i}{i_0})\\ i=i_0e^{-\frac{t}{RC}}$$
Now to solve for ##i_0## at t=0 ##\frac{q}{c}=i_0Re^{-\frac{t}{RC}}## becomes $$\frac{v_0}{c}=i_0R\\ i_0=\frac{v_0}{RC}\Longrightarrow i=\frac{v_0}{RC}e^{-\frac{t}{RC}}$$
Finally from KVL $$v_c=iR=\frac{v_0}{C}e^{-\frac{t}{RC}}$$

which is not the correct answer.
 
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Potatochip911 said:
vc=iR=v0Ce−tRC
Potatochip911 said:
which is not the correct answer
Of course it isn't. You can see it is dimensionally incorrect.(Vo/C doesn't give voltage).
Potatochip911 said:
v0c=i0R
Where does this come from?
 
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cnh1995 said:
Of course it isn't. You can see it is dimensionally incorrect.(Vo/C doesn't give voltage).

Where does this come from?

I got that from the KVL equation (q/c=ir) and at t=0 so ##\frac{q(0)}{c}=i(0)R##
 
Q/C=Vo, not Vo/C .
 
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ehild said:
Q/C=Vo, not Vo/C .
Whoops, after making the proper substitution then we get ##i_0=\frac{v_0}{R}\Longrightarrow i=\frac{v_0}{R}e^{-\frac{t}{RC}}\Longrightarrow V_c=iR=v_0e^{-\frac{t}{RC}}## which is the correct expression :)
 
It is useful to check the dimensions during a derivation. :smile:
 
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