MHB Deriving F(x) from f(x*f(x^2)) with Given Conditions

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The discussion focuses on deriving the function F(x) from the equation F = f(x*f(x^2)) given specific conditions for f. Participants suggest using the product and chain rules for differentiation, emphasizing the need to handle the inner function carefully. One user successfully derives F'(x) as f'(xf(x^2))(2x^2f'(x^2) + f(x^2)). After applying the derived formula and substituting x=2, the user confirms they reached the correct answer. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding derivative rules in complex function compositions.
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F = f(x*f(x^2)), such that  f (4) = 6,  f '(4) = 1, and  f '(12) = 3. Find F '(2)

I know the format looks weird, but that's exactly how the function was written, which is why I'm not sure how to proceed with this one.
 
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What ideas you have about how to do this problem? Or, do some rules of derivatives look promising?
 
Theia said:
What ideas you have about how to do this problem? Or, do some rules of derivatives look promising?

I was thinking of doing the product rule, but I just don't understand the xf(x^2) part of it. Now I'm also thinking the chain rule would be a better option actually. I'm just not sure how you would differentiate the x...
 
Yes, you'll need the product rule and the chain rule. ^^ The innerfunction is simply a function - and you need to use the chain rule again here.

For example if we have:

$$g = x(x - 1)^2$$,

we obtain

$$g' = (x - 1)^2 + x \cdot 2 (x-1)^1 \cdot 1 = \cdots$$.

Can you follow the procedure in your problem?
 
Theia said:
Yes, you'll need the product rule and the chain rule. ^^ The innerfunction is simply a function - and you need to use the chain rule again here.

For example if we have:

$$g = x(x - 1)^2$$,

we obtain

$$g' = (x - 1)^2 + x \cdot 2 (x-1)^1 \cdot 1 = \cdots$$.

Can you follow the procedure in your problem?

Yes I have tried but I just can't seem to work it out.
 
We are given:

$$F(x)=f\left(xf\left(x^2\right)\right)$$

Using the chain and product rules, we obtain:

$$F'(x)=f'\left(xf\left(x^2\right)\right)\left(xf'\left(x^2\right)(2x)+1\cdot f\left(x^2\right)\right)$$

Simplify:

$$F'(x)=f'\left(xf\left(x^2\right)\right)\left(2x^2f'\left(x^2\right)+f\left(x^2\right)\right)$$

What do you get when you let $x=2$?
 
It's alright, I ended up getting the answer, but thank you for outlining the process :)
 

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