Deriving velocty with drag equation

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The discussion focuses on deriving the velocity equation under the influence of drag, specifically using the equation v(t) = F/b (1 - e^(-bt/m)). Participants clarify the integration process and the handling of absolute values in the context of drag forces. The key insight is that when evaluating the limits of the definite integrals, the absolute value can be simplified since F is always greater than bv. This leads to a clearer understanding of the relationship between force, drag, and velocity over time.

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Homework Statement


Derive an equation for velocity based on time with drag.


Homework Equations


The equation is: v(t) = F/b (1 - e^(-bt/m))


The Attempt at a Solution



There's some math on paper, but I got down to:
F - bv = ma
a = dv / dt

F - bv = m*dv/dt

dt = m*dv / (F - bv)
integrate both sides

t = m*(-ln(|bv-F|) / b)

-tb/m = ln(|bv-F|)

e^(-tb/m) = |bv-F|

here is where I don't know how to simplify it anymore. What do I do with the absolute value?
If I ignore it, it doesn't simplify right, or at least I can't get it to.
 
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Hi M4573R,

M4573R said:

Homework Statement


Derive an equation for velocity based on time with drag.


Homework Equations


The equation is: v(t) = F/b (1 - e^(-bt/m))


The Attempt at a Solution



There's some math on paper, but I got down to:
F - bv = ma
a = dv / dt

F - bv = m*dv/dt

dt = m*dv / (F - bv)
integrate both sides

t = m*(-ln(|bv-F|) / b)


This equation is not right. These are definite integrals, so you need to evaluate them at the limits. Evaluate the right hand side for an initial speed of zero and for the final speed v and then solve for v. Do you get the result they ask for?



About the absolute value: with the equation you are looking for, you know that F cannot be smaller than bv, so what does [itex]|bv-F|[/itex] equal?
 

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