Designing a Hydraulic Cylinder Jack for a Mechanical Car Lifting System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and development of a Mechanical Car Lifting Jack as part of a Manufacturing Process course. Participants explore various aspects of the project, including design methodologies, force multiplication methods, and material considerations, within a limited timeframe of 8-9 weeks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the difficulty level of the project and seeks guidance on calculations for forces and materials needed to lift a car.
  • Another suggests deciding on the method of force multiplication, questioning whether the jack will be hydraulic or gear-driven.
  • Participants are encouraged to research existing designs, with some expressing a desire to replicate a screw jack they already possess.
  • Requirements for the jack are discussed, including maximum lift weight, portability, and cost considerations.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether a screw jack would be easier to construct than a hydraulic cylinder jack.
  • A participant indicates a preference for a simple hydraulic cylinder jack but notes challenges in finding design information.
  • Background information about participants' educational experiences and exposure to design methodologies is shared, highlighting varying levels of familiarity with design processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the best approach to the design of the jack, with multiple competing views on the type of mechanism to use (screw jack vs. hydraulic cylinder) and differing opinions on the complexity of the project.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the design process and the specific requirements for the jack, indicating a need for further clarification on parameters such as lift capacity and portability. There are also unresolved questions about the feasibility of different design approaches.

Altairs
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We are making a Mechanical Car Lifting Jack as part of our Manufacturing Process course. A few questions :-

1. It looked too simple to me, but sometimes it doesn't. Like it has quite a nice assembly. Where do you put it on difficulty scale ?

2. What do you suggest that we do calculations for the forces and material etc because we want it to be able to lift the car?

3. What should be our initial target ? Like design, calculations etc..What should be the precise procedure?

We have only 8-9 weeks for the project.
 
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You will first have to decide what method of force multiplication you will be using to apply the desired force to lift the vehicle. Will the jack be hydraulic or gear-driven?
 
Do some research on what existing designs are out there already. Do you want to replicate an existing one or go off on your own.
 
What are the requirements/parameters? Such as, maximum lift weight (must it lift the whole car, or just one corner); portability (can one person carry it); manufacturing/retail price target.
 
Do you have a forming press?
 
Mech_Engineer said:
You will first have to decide what method of force multiplication you will be using to apply the desired force to lift the vehicle. Will the jack be hydraulic or gear-driven?

Simplest...screw jack...
 
FredGarvin said:
Do some research on what existing designs are out there already. Do you want to replicate an existing one or go off on your own.

I want to replicate the one I have. Its a screw jack. A very simple one.
 
pantaz said:
What are the requirements/parameters? Such as, maximum lift weight (must it lift the whole car, or just one corner); portability (can one person carry it); manufacturing/retail price target.

1. One corner will be enough.

2. Very portable.

3. With the design in my mind I don't think it is going to cost much.
 
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What is your background? What type of program are you in? I ask this because you seem to want us to lead you by the nose through this "design." Have you had any exposure to any kind of design methodology class? What, exactly, is the object of this project?
 
  • #11
Altairs said:
I want to replicate the one I have. Its a screw jack. A very simple one.

So you're planning on reverse-engineering a jack you already have? I'm not sure a screw jack will be easier to make than simple hydraulic cylinder jack, but whatever floats your boat.
 
  • #12
FredGarvin said:
What is your background? What type of program are you in? I ask this because you seem to want us to lead you by the nose through this "design." Have you had any exposure to any kind of design methodology class? What, exactly, is the object of this project?

I am doing BE Mech. Engg. We have already gone through the course in which we learnd and performed different techniques like foundry, machining, forging etc. I have very good idea about the processes. As for design there hasn't been anything at all till now. The object of this project is to make something using the processes we have learned.
 
  • #13
Mech_Engineer said:
So you're planning on reverse-engineering a jack you already have? I'm not sure a screw jack will be easier to make than simple hydraulic cylinder jack, but whatever floats your boat.

Not reverse engineering, actually. Its just that I have the final product which I want to make. I am more inclined towards a simple hydraulic cylinder jack but even with excessive googl-ing I haven't come up with any help regarding its design, mechanism etc. I would love to do it.
 

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