How to Design a Pneumatic Cylinder for Fast Race Car Lifting?

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The discussion revolves around the design of a pneumatic cylinder intended for lifting a race car. Participants explore various factors that need to be considered in the design process, including load capacity, pressure requirements, and the dynamics of lifting speed. The conversation includes both theoretical considerations and practical advice related to the application of pneumatic systems in automotive contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that off-the-shelf pneumatic cylinders may be more efficient than designing one from scratch, emphasizing the importance of proper fixtures for attachment.
  • Another participant highlights the need to determine the weight being lifted and suggests a static load capability of 2 to 3 times the load for safety and performance.
  • A calculation is provided for the required piston area based on a target force of 3000 lbs at a maximum pressure of 250 psi, resulting in a piston diameter of approximately 3.9 inches.
  • Concerns are raised about the bending loads on the rod and the importance of ensuring lateral stability of the car during lifting.
  • One participant inquires about using a Factor of Safety of 1.5 times the total weight of the car, which is confirmed by another participant as reasonable given the use of four cylinders.
  • Discussion includes the suggestion that a design load of 800 lbs per cylinder may be sufficient to achieve the desired lifting speed, although the exact speed calculation is noted to be complex due to factors like air supply and cylinder ports.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate Factor of Safety and the feasibility of achieving the desired lifting speed within the specified parameters. There is no consensus on the exact design specifications or the effectiveness of the proposed approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the calculations for speed and load capacity are dependent on various factors, including the design of air supply hoses and the configuration of the pneumatic system, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hello

I want to design a pneumatic cylinder for race car lifting. The cylinder should work in such a way that it can lift the car 4 inch from the ground in 0.5 sec. And the max pressure is 250 psi. Can anybody please help me out of this. What are the factors that I have to take into consideration while designing?
 
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Pneumatic cylinders that do such a job are right off the shelf. Not sure why you'd want to design one from scratch when companies have put lot of effort into optimizing the design and manufacturing of pneumatic cylinders. Obviously even if you buy one off the shelf, you'll still need to design a proper fixtures for attaching the cylinder to the ground and the car. But if you really want to design the cylinder from scratch, here are some thoughts. Determine the weight you have to lift. Are you lifting 1/2 of the car's weight? Or 1/4? Keep in mind the CG of the car. To travel the 4" in about 1/2 a sec. you'll need a static load capability of maybe 2 or 3 times the load you are lifting. you'll also need fairly large tubing/valves/ports so the flow rate won't slow you down much. Let's just assume the force it take to lift the portion of the car you want to lift is 1000 lbs. I'd design the cylinder to produce 3000 lbs of force. If you have no problem getting 250psi air, than the piston area you need is A = F/P = 3000 lbs/250 psi = 12 in2. That equates to a 3.9" piston diameter.
Also keep in mind the rod diameter. If you're pressurizing the side of the cylinder w/ the rod, you have to subtract the rod area from you piston area to get your force. But I would think you could design it so you pressurize the non-rod side.
Ideally you don't want to put the rod in bending. If you can insure the car will not move laterally by other means (blocking the wheels on the ground) that would make it easier to design the rod. If that is not practical, you'd want to design the rod to handle the bending load.
Good luck and feel free to post sketches as you come through the design if you want a review.
 
Thank you very much for reply...I have to design 4 cylinders equally loaded and the weight of the car is known which is 1500 pounds...can I take the Factor of Safety as 1.5 time the total weight and than do further design?
 
Since you're using 4 cylinders, that's 4x the flow area, I can see a smaller than 3x factor working. Most of the pneumatic cylinders I've used, I typically use 1.5-2x the static loading for the design load. And I don't think they would go 4" in .5 seconds. However, I'm also used to using only 100 psi. Calculating the speed is a really difficult thing since it's much more than just F=ma. It involves the flow which is really up to your air supply hoses, cylinder ports, etc. My gut says a 2x factor will get you there, so if you design each cylinder to provide an 800 lbs load, that may get you the speed you want.
 

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