Designing a Safe and Simple Enrichment Object for Elephants at the National Zoo

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a safe and effective enrichment object for elephants at the National Zoo, focusing on mechanical systems that could facilitate the interaction between elephants and the enrichment object. Participants explore various mechanical designs, including pulley systems and lever mechanisms, while considering safety and functionality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a pulley system with a bucket and a heavy object, emphasizing the need for controlled lowering of the bucket to ensure safety for both elephants and zoo keepers.
  • Another participant questions the initial ideas and asks for more details on the research conducted by the original poster.
  • A suggestion is made to tighten the pulley to control the descent speed while ensuring the elephant can lift the log, along with a mechanism to prevent the bucket from exceeding a certain height.
  • Alternative designs are proposed, such as a lever system that could be constructed from a log, which would allow for a tipping mechanism to limit the bucket's descent.
  • One participant introduces the idea of using a damper to control the swing rate of the system, mentioning various materials that could serve this purpose.
  • The concept of an eddy-current brake is discussed as a means to avoid wear on the rope, with concerns raised about the safety of braking directly at the rope.
  • Another participant reiterates the eddy-current brake idea and suggests a friction pad on the wheel axle to control the system's movement.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using pulleys and ropes in an elephant enclosure, citing potential hazards beyond just falling objects, and advocating for simpler designs that minimize risks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and concerns regarding the design, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some favor pulley systems while others advocate for lever mechanisms, and safety concerns are a recurring theme without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various safety concerns related to the use of mechanical systems in an elephant enclosure, indicating that the discussion is influenced by the need to balance functionality with animal welfare. There are also unresolved technical details regarding the effectiveness and safety of proposed mechanisms.

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Hello!
I am a civil engineering student and have been tasked with creating an enrichment object for elephants at the national zoo in DC. I don't know much about pulleys, and am wondering if there are some mechanical engineers out there who could give me some hints on how to achieve this!
My idea is for a system of one (or more) pulleys. On one end of the rope would be a bucket and on the other, a large heavy object (such as log). The goal is this: once an elephant lifts the log the bucket will be lowered so that another elephant could grab the goodies inside the bucket.
I need a system that will allow the bucket to be lowered at controlled rate, so that it will be safe for the elephants/zoo keepers. I also need to prevent the bucket from getting too high and tangled in the system.

Is this at all possible, and what are your ideas?

Thanks SO much!
 
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Sounds like an interesting project.
Do you have any ideas of your own?
What research have you done?
 
I would say this: you will want to tighten the pulley so that it will come down slow and controlled but not so tight that MR. Elephant can't pick up the log. or what would be better is that you could have a samll hole that the rope (bucket side) goes through that ever so slightly smaller than the rope (for restriction) and so the bucket doesn't go past the designated point. :partytime: (p.s., and why does the other elephant get all the goodies?)
 
You could do away with the pulley system all together and go with a long lever mounted up high attached to a weighted object. Basically a seesaw. :smile:

You could also presumably make this lever out of the log. You could make it so the bucket doesn't have to come all the way down. Just include a tipping mechanism at a point which the bucket can not pass.
 
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you can use a damper (which can be many things) to control the free-swing rate of the system. this could be a teflon block that the rope has to pass through where the block provides some friction. constant force of the damper can be spring assisted, good until the teflon block wear away to nothing, etc.
 
An eddy-current brake (at a wheel supporting a rope) would avoid wear on the rope. Braking directly at the rope sounds dangerous - at some point it will fail, and bucket and/or log fall down.

The restriction for the bucket can be independent of this brake.
 
mfb said:
An eddy-current brake (at a wheel supporting a rope) would avoid wear on the rope. Braking directly at the rope sounds dangerous - at some point it will fail, and bucket and/or log fall down.

The restriction for the bucket can be independent of this brake.
good pints.

or what about just a friction pad on the wheel axle, like a spring loaded brake pad which provided friction to make it harder to just free wheel.
 
I personally think the use of pulleys and ropes in an elephant enclosure could be dangerous for the animal

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...03334F448D126E0D552303334F448D126&FORM=VRDGAR

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...3031FA48733CE3C4B8023031FA48733CE&FORM=VRDGAR

not that the idea wouldn't work but there are other safety concerns aside from falling buckets and breaking ropes.

gjonesy said:
You could also presumably make this lever out of the log. You could make it so the bucket doesn't have to come all the way down. Just include a tipping mechanism at a point which the bucket can not pass.

The lever method I spoke of could be made safe by adding an air shock to the weighted end of the lever so that the lever comes down slowly and controlled it would have only a few ridged mechanical parts and so could stand up to a lot of punishment without failure. No rope for the animal to get tangled up in. the log would always have a gap under it so it would be less of a pinch hazard.

Some times simple is better.
 
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