Determinant of a unit columns matrix

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The discussion revolves around the assertion that the determinant of a matrix with all unit vector columns is less than or equal to 1. Participants explore various approaches to proving this assertion, engaging in both theoretical reasoning and geometric interpretations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if all columns of a matrix are unit vectors, the determinant is less than or equal to 1 and seeks assistance in proving this.
  • Another participant explains that the determinant represents the volume of the parallelepiped formed by the columns, suggesting that if all edges are of length 1 or smaller, the volume should not exceed 1.
  • A participant acknowledges the intuitive nature of the claim but emphasizes the need for a formal proof.
  • One suggestion involves considering the QR decomposition and whether the property of unit vectors holds for the Q and R matrices.
  • Another participant elaborates on the geometric proof in 2D, relating the area of a parallelogram to the lengths of its edges and suggesting that similar reasoning applies in higher dimensions using vector algebra and the triangle inequality.
  • A participant discusses the method of calculating the volume of a parallelepiped using orthogonal components, noting that these components have norms smaller than the original vectors.
  • One participant translates the geometric reasoning into determinant notation, demonstrating how the determinant can be expressed in terms of orthogonal components and the implications of having identical columns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the assertion that the determinant of a matrix with unit vector columns should be less than or equal to 1, but the discussion remains unresolved as they seek a formal proof and explore various methods of reasoning.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the properties of determinants, the nature of unit vectors, and the geometric interpretations involved, which may not be universally accepted or proven within the context of the conversation.

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If all columns of a matrix are unit vectors, the determinant of the matrix is less or equal 1

I am trying to prove this assertion,which i guess to be true.
can anybody help me?
Thank's in advance
 
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The determinant is equal to the volume of the parallelepiped formed by the columns - so the question reduces to if you have a parallelepiped which has all edges of length 1 or smaller, is its volume no larger than 1. Intuitively this should be true because the largest volume would occur when the edges are orthogonal, depending on what you know it may or may not be easy to prove though.
 
Yes,i know that but i am searching for a proof.
 
Think about the QR decomposition and see if the property of the unit vectors remains true for the Q and R matrices.
 
Office_Shredder said:
so the question reduces to if you have a parallelepiped which has all edges of length 1 or smaller, is its volume no larger than 1.

The proof of that by Euclidean geometry is easy. In 2D, you have the area of a parallelogram with pairs of edges of length a <= 1 and b <= 1. The area is equal to a rectangle with base a and the height h <= b.

The same argument works to transform an n-dimensional parallepiped into an n-dimensional cuboid, so just translate it into vector algebra. It will depend on the triangle inequality, which is equivalent to the fact that ##|\cos\theta| <= 1##.
 
You mean to decomposite the euclidean space to direct sum ,using torthogonal space of each vector?
If not,can you specify more?
 
The volume of a parallelepiped can be found as follows: if the edges are v1, v2,...,vn:

||v1||*|| the component of v2 orthogonal to v1||* || the component of v3 orthogonal to span(v1,v2||...

the orthogonal component always has a norm smaller than the original vector, so we are multiplying a bunch of numbers that are all no larger than 1,.
 
Translating into determinant notation, if the columns of the matrix are ##v_1, \dots, v_n##, let ##v_2 = av_1 + v'_2## where ##v'_2## is orthogonal to ##v_1##.
Then ##\det(v_1,v_2,.\dots,v_n) = a\det(v_1,v_1,\dots,v_n) + \det(v_1,v'_2,\dots,v_n)##, ##\det(v_1,v_1,\dots,v_n) = 0## because two columns are identical, and ##||v'_2|| \le ||v_2||##.

Repeat for columns ##3,\dots,n##.
 

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