Determinant of Block Matrices: How Do Non-Zero Blocks Affect the Determinant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of block matrices, specifically focusing on how the presence of non-zero blocks affects the determinant. Participants explore the structure of block matrices, the implications of having zero blocks, and the sizes of the blocks involved.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the determinant of block matrices.
  • Another participant explains that when a block matrix is structured with a zero block, the determinant can be expressed as the product of the determinants of the non-zero blocks.
  • There is a suggestion that the blocks do not need to be of the same size, as illustrated by the example given where $A_{11}$ is $2 \times 2$ and $A_{21}$ is $3 \times 2$.
  • Participants note that the block matrices can vary in size, but at least one of the blocks must be zero for the determinant property discussed to hold.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the structure of block matrices and the implications of having zero blocks, but there is no explicit consensus on all aspects of the determinant properties discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions under which the determinant properties hold, nor does it address potential limitations or assumptions regarding the sizes and arrangements of the blocks.

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I don't quite follow this, can anyone explain?
 

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Hi Rido12. I haven't actually used this fact but it appears what is going on it that we are blocking the matrix into this form:

$$\left(\begin{array}{cc}A_{11} & A_{12} \\ A_{21} & A_{22} \end{array}\right)$$

More particularly we are choosing $A_{12}=0$ so we end up with a lower triangular block matrix that looks like this:

$$\left(\begin{array}{cc}A_{11} &0 \\ A_{21} & A_{22} \end{array}\right)$$

So, $\text{det}\left(\begin{array}{cc}A_{11} &0 \\ A_{21} & A_{22} \end{array}\right)=\text{det}(A_{11}A_{22}-0A_{21})=\text{det}(A_{11}A_{22})=\text{det}(A_{11})\text{det}(A_{22})$

I think that's the basic argument. Here is a link with some useful info on it as well. :)
 
Hi Jameson! :D

Thanks for the reply - so it appears that the blocks don't have to be of the same size? By that, I mean $A_{11}$ appears to be of size $2$ by $2$ while $A_{21}$ seems to be of $3$ by $2$. If so, this seems to be a pretty useful tool! (Cool)
 
Rido12 said:
Hi Jameson! :D

Thanks for the reply - so it appears that the blocks don't have to be of the same size? By that, I mean $A_{11}$ appears to be of size $2$ by $2$ while $A_{21}$ seems to be of $3$ by $2$. If so, this seems to be a pretty useful tool! (Cool)

Hey Rido! ;)

See here.

So the block matrices can be of any size, but either right top, or left bottom has to be zero.
 

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