Determine energy state difference using absorption-emission spectra

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The discussion revolves around estimating the energy state difference between vibrational states in a given absorption-emission spectrum, specifically focusing on transitions involving the vibrational ground state S0,v=0 and the first excited vibrational state S0,v=1. Participants are analyzing the provided solution and questioning its validity based on their interpretations of the spectra.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the provided solution, suggesting that the first fluorescence peak at 380 nm corresponds to S1,v=0 -> S0,v=1 and the second peak at 400 nm corresponds to S1,v=0 -> S0,v=2.
  • Another participant questions the appropriateness of using S0,v=1 as the final state for both peaks, arguing that internal conversion processes would affect the energy emitted.
  • A participant points out that the solution should express energy differences in units like eV or cm-1 rather than wavelength, emphasizing the non-linear relationship between wavelength and energy.
  • One participant mentions that the provided solution appears to be mislabeled and references an external figure they believe to be correct.
  • There is a discussion about the absence of a v=0→0 transition in the peaks, with participants questioning the reasoning behind the initial assumptions made regarding the transitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the provided solution, with multiple competing interpretations of the spectral data and transitions remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the labeling of peaks and the appropriateness of the units used for energy state differences. There are also unresolved questions about the transitions and internal conversion processes involved.

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Hello,

I was wondering if someone could help clarifying this question.

The question asks to estimate the energy state difference between the vibrational ground state of S0,v=0 and the first excited vibrational ground state S0,v=1 of the spectra below.

The given solution: S1,v=1 -> S0,v=1 at \lambda = 400 nm and S1,v=2 -> S0,v=1 at \lambda = 380 nm.

There are two things I'm confused about the solution:
1) From Figure B, I would assume that the first Fluorescence peak at 380 nm in Figure A corresponds to S1,v=0 -> S0,v=1 and the second peak at 400 nm corresponds to S1,v=0 -> S0,v=2. Larger transition results in higher emission energy or smaller wavelength.

2) Why is S0,v=1 being used as the final state for both peaks?
The S1,v=1 -> S0,v=1 would occur as S1,v=1 ->S1,v=0 ->S0,v=1 and
S1,v=2 ->S1,v=0 ->S0,v=1.
Since S1,v=2 or 1 ->S1,v=0 is internal conversion, wouldn't S1,v=0 ->S0,v=1 for the two transitions give off the same energy?

Thanks in advance!
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I don't think the solution matches what the question asks for. Could you write the fully replicated question and the solution? Perhaps, a screenshot/photo of the question and solution?

For example, the question asks for the energy state difference, which means that the solution should be in the units of eV or cm-1 (or Hartree). It doesn't make any sense that the solution is in wavelength (nm) because wavelength is inversely proportional to energy and is not linear. Thus, you can't just add/subtract wavelength differences (unless you know what you are doing).

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1) No, the fluorescence peak at 380 is not S1,v=0 → S0,v=1, and the second peak at 400 nm is not S1,v=0 → S0,v=2. What is your reasoning that you are not seeing any v=0→0 transition?
 
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Hi Hayao,
Thank you for your response!

The question was: Use the anthracene absorption and emission spectrum in Figure 8.5 (Figure 1 in this post) to construct a combined Jablonski diagram/absorption/emission spectrum sketch. Label all states and calculate transition energies in cm-1.

The solution provided by the Professor and the one I found on Google were similar and as provided in the original post: S1,v=1 -> S0,v=1 at λ = 400 nm and S1,v=2 -> S0,v=1 at λ = 380 nm. I believe both were mislabeled. I found the figure below from ScienceDirect and I think it is correct.

"No, the fluorescence peak at 380 is not S1,v=0 → S0,v=1, and the second peak at 400 nm is not S1,v=0 → S0,v=2. What is your reasoning that you are not seeing any v=0→0 transition?"

Initially, I labeled the first peak as v=0->0 (overlapping peaks in Absorption and Emission spectrum are v=0->0 transition) and second peak to be v=0->1. I got confused by the solution and modified my answer.

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Yes, that figure is correct.
 
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