Determine if a function is a polynomial

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the function $$g(x) = (4 + x^3)/x$$ is a polynomial function. Participants explore the definitions and properties of polynomials, particularly focusing on the implications of the function being undefined at certain points.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that $$g(x) = (4 + x^3)/x$$ cannot be a polynomial because it is not defined at $$x = 0$$.
  • Others reference the formal definition of a polynomial, noting that it must be defined for all real numbers.
  • A participant proposes that if $$P(x) = (4 + x^3)/x$$ were a polynomial, then the expression $$x \cdot P(x) - x^3 = 4$$ would also need to be a polynomial, leading to a contradiction.
  • Some participants express an intuitive understanding that having $$x$$ in the denominator implies it cannot be zero.
  • There is a mention of the requirement for polynomials to have non-zero coefficients and be defined everywhere on $$\mathbb{R}$$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the function is not a polynomial due to its undefined nature at $$x = 0$$. However, there are varying degrees of understanding and explanation regarding why this is the case, leading to some unresolved nuances in the reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of polynomials and the implications of being undefined at certain points are present but not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve all aspects of the reasoning behind polynomial definitions.

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I'm going through polynomials and the the problem:
$$g\left(x\right)= (4+x^3)/3 $$ IS NOT A POLYNOMIAL FUNCTION.

I don't get it. The answer says $$x\ne0$$, it's not a polynomial.
How did you deduce that?

Going down the rabbit hole...and it's the third week.
 
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datafiend said:
I'm going through polynomials and the the problem:
$$g\left(x\right)= (4+x^3)/3 $$ IS NOT A POLYNOMIAL FUNCTION.

I don't get it. The answer says $$x\ne0$$, it's not a polynomial.
How did you deduce that?

Going down the rabbit hole...and it's the third week.

A polynomial of degree $n$ is a function of the form
$$f(x)=a_n x^n+a_{n-1}x^{n-1}+ \dots + a_2 x^2+a_1 x+a_0$$

where each coefficient $a_k$ is a real number, $a_n \neq 0$, and $n$ is a non-negative integer.

In your case, $n=3 \in \mathbb{N}$, $a_3=\frac{1}{3} \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \{ 0 \}, a_2=a_1=0 \in \mathbb{R}, a_0=\frac{4}{3} \in \mathbb{R}$

Therefore, $g(x)=\frac{1}{3} x^3+\frac{4}{3}$ is a polynomial function of degree $3$.
 
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I typed in the problem wrong. It should be

$$g(x)=(4+x^3)/x$$

Sorry.
 
First, do you see why $x\ne0$?

Second, can this be written in the form given above by evinda?
 
If $f(x)$ and $g(x)$ be polynomials (look at evinda's definition) then we know that $f(x) + g(x)$ and $f(x)g(x)$ are also polynomials. (why?). However, If $P(x) = (4 + x^3)/x$ is a polynomial, then $x \cdot P(x) - x^3 = 4$ is a polynomial too. Prove that a polynomial with nonzero coefficients can never be everywhere constant on $\Bbb R$, thus arrive at a contradiction.


Rather easily, prove that a polynomial is everywhere defined on $\Bbb R$. However, $P(x) = (4+x^3)/x$ is not defined at $x = 0$ (why?). Thus conclude that $P(x)$ is not a polynomial. (EDIT : Oh, I see this was the intended answer. Silly me)
 
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I think intuitively that x CAN'T be a zero when it's in the denominator.
 
datafiend said:
I think intuitively that x CAN'T be a zero when it's in the denominator.

Yes, right! (Yes)

When we try to divide by zero, things stop making sense..
 

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