Determine potential due to spring on particle is weak

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle in a box with a spring attached, and the goal is to determine under what conditions the potential energy due to the spring is considered weak. The context includes concepts from quantum mechanics and classical mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the spring constant 'k' and the potential energy V(x), questioning how to express the condition for weak potential. They explore comparisons between 'k' and other energy-related quantities.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between various quantities, with some participants suggesting comparisons that could clarify the condition for weak potential. Guidance has been offered regarding the relevance of units and the significance of choosing appropriate energy states.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of the problem's parameters, including the significance of the ground state energy and the dimensions involved. There is some confusion regarding the notation and units, which is being clarified throughout the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A particle is in a box with length L. A spring attached to the particle is fixed at x=0. How can we determine the potential due to the spring is weak?

Homework Equations



H=p2/2m
Si(x)=sqrt(2/L)sin(npix/L)
En=n2pi2hbar2/2mL2
V(x)=kx2

The Attempt at a Solution



If I base my answer solely off of the quadratic equation, than that something must be x. If x is very small next to k, than wouldn't V(x) be small? I'm not sure if this is correct, however since there was so much information given in the problem... Help me please?
 
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Well, look at the units of 'k'. It is energy per unit length squared. Your problem has similar quantities, such as ground state energy and length of the box. So you will want your 'k' to be small compared to some form of those quantities that have the same units.
 
So is it k<<V(x)/x2 then? This can't be true... Am I comparing it to En/L2? k<<n2pi2hbar2/smL4 ?
 
The last thing you said is better. Except you choose the ground state since it is a smaller energy. Also you can get rid of the pi and any other constants that have no units, since they are just numbers that don't contribute in this comparison. Not sure what the 's' is?
 
meant 2 by the s.

Okay, so k<<n2hbar2/mL4 then?
 
'n' has no units.
 
awesome ^_^ thank you so much for your help.

I have k<<hbar2/mL4
 
That is correct.
 

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