Determine the acceleration due to gravity on this planet

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The discussion revolves around determining the acceleration due to gravity on an unnamed planet based on the vertical position equation of a projectile, y(t)=-6t²+48t-90. Participants explore the implications of the coefficients in the equation and their relationship to initial conditions and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of the coefficients in the projectile's position equation, questioning how they relate to initial position, initial velocity, and acceleration. There are inquiries about how to find the coordinates for the maximum height and the appropriate method for determining the time at which this occurs.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the coefficients of the equation and how they relate to gravitational acceleration. Others have raised questions about the process for finding maximum height and the time at which it occurs, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of explicit values for time or velocity in the original problem statement, which has led to discussions about assumptions and the need for further calculations to determine specific values.

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Homework Statement


A projectile is launched over level ground on an unnamed planet. The equation of the projectile's vertical position is y(t)=-6t2+48t-90.
a. Determine the acceleration due to gravity on this planet
b. Determine (ymax, tymax), the coordinates of the maximum height of the projectile in the t-y plane


Homework Equations


rf=ri+vit+1/2gt2


The Attempt at a Solution


I know ri=0 because that's the origin
Since I'm not given a time or velocity I'm stuck on how to solve for anything
 
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darbeecakes said:

Homework Statement


A projectile is launched over level ground on an unnamed planet. The equation of the projectile's vertical position is y(t)=-6t2+48t-90.



Homework Equations


rf=ri+vit+1/2gt2


The Attempt at a Solution


I know ri=0 because that's the origin
Since I'm not given a time or velocity I'm stuck on how to solve for anything
Write y and yi in your equation instead of r and ri. The equation given and your one should be equivalent, that is they have to give the same y at every time t. What does it mean for yi, vi and g?

ehild
 
Thank you. yi is the initial y position, vi is the initial velocity, and g is gravity due to acceleration.
 
darbeecakes said:
Thank you. yi is the initial y position, vi is the initial velocity, and g is gravity due to acceleration.
Compare it with the original equation
y(t)=-6t2+48t-90

What is the value of the initial position, initial velocity and acceleration?

ehild
 
So the initial position is -90, initial velocity is 48t and acceleration is -6t2?
 
t is the running time. Anything that contains t changes with time. The initial velocity is the velocity at t=0. ehild
 
So do I leave the acceleration value as -6t2 or do I solve it further by substituting a value for t? And how do I find the final t value?
 
You have the general equation for the vertical position of a projectile

y(t)=yi+vit -g/2 t^2

(assuming that the positive y-axis points upward and vi is the initial upward velocity).

On that planet, you launch a projectile upward from a valley and you get the vertical position as function of time:

y(t)=-90 +48t -6t2.

These equations should be equivalent, the positions y(t) given by both equations are the same at any time. You certainly have learned that the coefficients of two polynomials have to agree pairwise in order they are equivalent. The coefficients of t^2 in both equations have to be the same: so -g/2=-6. The coefficient of t should agree, too, so 48=vi.

ehild
 
How do I find the coordinates for the maximum height of the projectile?
 
  • #10
How can you find the maximum of a function? ehild
 
  • #11
I know the equation for the maximum height is the same as the first one i gave with ymax substituted in for rfinal and yinitial substituted in for rinitial, but I'm not sure how to find coordinate numbers when two variables are unknown.
 
  • #12
You should calculate the maximum height and the time the projectile reaches it. If you studied calculus you know that the maximum of y is at that value of t where the derivative of y with respect to t is zero: dy/dt=0.
The other approach: you know that the vertical velocity of a projectile is v=vi-gt. You can find the rise time from the condition v=0.

ehild
 
  • #13
I ended up getting t=4 and y=6.
I think it's correct.
Thank you for the help.
 

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