Determine the effective spring constant of the molecule

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The problem involves determining the effective spring constant of a DNA molecule that behaves like a spring when charged. The molecule's length and the amount of compression upon ionization are provided, but the focus is on the forces involved due to the charges at either end.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Hooke's law and the relationship between force and compression. There is exploration of the source of the force due to the charges and whether Coulomb's law can be applied to find this force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the nature of the forces involved and how to apply relevant equations. Some have provided guidance on using Coulomb's law, while others are clarifying assumptions about the charges and distances involved.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the exact values of the charges and the implications of the compression on the calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the definitions and parameters used in the equations.

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Homework Statement


A molecule of DNA is 2.17 micrometers long. The ends of the molecule becom singly ionized: negative on one end, positive on the other. The helical molecule acts like a spring and compresses 1.00% upon becoming charged. Determine the effective spring constant of the molecule.


Homework Equations


I need a spring constant equation... Is this what I use?
F=kx

The Attempt at a Solution


The distance is going to be .01(2.17), but I'm not sure where to go from there. Could you please point me in the right direction? Thanks!
 
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Yes, F=kx is what you use.

What's the force compressing the molecule? Remember that the molecule is singly ionized.
 
Hooke's law gives F=-kx (note the negative).

Since you already know x in this situation, all you need is F. Where do you think the force of compression comes from, and what is that force?
 
WEll... Could I use Coulomb's Law?
I know it is compressing because the two charges would be attracted to each other and want to come closer... but I'm not really sure how to get the force from that.
 
Use Coulomb's law. F=-kQ1Q2/r^2 (note, this k is not the spring constant k, but a constant for Coulomb's law)
 
but it doesn't say how much my charges are ionized by... should I just say they are + and - 1 ?
 
And is r going to be 2.17 micrometers?
 
It does say that they are "singly ionized". Which means your charges are +1e and -1e. Your r is actually going to be .99(2.17) micrometers, since that's the final position. The force of the "spring" is the force applied in the final position, so the force of the charges should be the force applied in the final position as well, although I don't think this will affect your calculations much.
 

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