Determine the energy required to accelerate a car

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The discussion focuses on calculating the energy required to accelerate a 1300 kg car from 10 to 60 km/h while ascending a 40m incline. Participants emphasize the importance of considering both kinetic energy (KE) and potential energy (PE) in the calculations. The relationship between initial velocity and height gained is highlighted, drawing parallels to projectile motion. The correct approach involves evaluating the total energy at the start and end of the motion, factoring in the vertical rise of 40m as a change in potential energy.

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  • Basic principles of work and energy in physics
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energy problem...

I got a problem that goes likethis: Determine the energy required to accelerate a 1300 kg car from 10 to 60km/h on an uphill road with a vertical rise of 40m.

Ok i know that work is the itegral of force which is ma. But what about this vertical rise of 40m? Does this basically mean at a 90 degree angle? Guess i just don't see the problem happening like that, but if that is what it means, that is what it means.
 
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A simpler way to approach this problem would be to look at the change in kinetic and potential energy of the car. What are the starting KE and PE, and what are the ending KE and PE? What is the total energy of the car at the start and end?
 
berkeman said:
A simpler way to approach this problem would be to look at the change in kinetic and potential energy of the car. What are the starting KE and PE, and what are the ending KE and PE? What is the total energy of the car at the start and end?
So i got 1/2*1300[(60000/2600)^2-(10000/3600)^2]*((1kJ/kg)/(1000m^2/s^2)) for the change in the kinetic energy. I still don't see where the vertical rise of 40m comes into play...
 
Think about what happens when you throw a ball straight up in the air. When it leaves your hand, it has some initial velocity, and hence some Kinetic Energy (KE). At the top of its arc, its velocity is zero, so what is the KE of the ball then? Where did that energy go? How come the faster you throw the ball, the higher the top of the arc is? What is the relationship between the initial velocity and the distance to the top of the arc?

The same concepts apply to the problem that you are trying to solve here.
 
Hey, are you in my thermo class? That is due tomorrow. Look at the example problem in the book, it already shows you how to do it. Open your book to page 69 example 2-8 and 2-9.
 
Pepsi24chevy said:
I still don't see where the vertical rise of 40m comes into play...

Think of it as a slope. The car starts at the bottom (h=0) and "finishes" at the top of the slope, 40m above starting ground level. The angle is not important.

As posted earlier, thinking about the energies at the start and at the end, you should be able to solve the problem.
 
assyrian_77 said:
Think of it as a slope. The car starts at the bottom (h=0) and "finishes" at the top of the slope, 40m above starting ground level. The angle is not important.

As posted earlier, thinking about the energies at the start and at the end, you should be able to solve the problem.
ok thanks, I got it now. I wasn't clearly thinkin about how the 40 factors in.
 
Are you taking thermo with jackson?

Ok i know that work is the itegral of force which is ma.

That is not true. Work is the integral of \int_c F * ds
 
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