Determine the focal length of a lens

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the focal length of a lens that creates a half-size image of a spider on a wall, with specific distances provided. The problem involves concepts from optics, particularly related to magnification and lens equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for the focal length and image distance, questioning the assumptions made about distances and the relationships between object distance, image distance, and magnification.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify their calculations and assumptions, while others are exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. There is a collaborative effort to identify errors and refine the approach to finding the correct focal length.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the distances involved, particularly the relationship between the object and image distances, as well as the implications of the lens position relative to the spider and the wall.

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Homework Statement



A 2.0-cm-diameter spider is 2.0 {\rm m} from a wall.
Determine the focal length of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.
Determine the position (measured from the wall) of a lens that will make a half-size image of the spider on the wall.

Homework Equations



M = fi/fo = di/do
1/f = 1/do + 1/di

The Attempt at a Solution


i got the first part. but not sure how to do the second one
 
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How did you get the first part? What did you get? There appear to be an infinite number of solutions, so I'm wondering which one you chose.
 


that was in the book. I am not really sure how to get that.
i tried it but i got -2m as the focal lens, where it is supposed to be 0.44m
here is how i did it

M = hi/ho
0.5 = hi/0.02
hi = 0.01 m

hi/ho = -di/do
0.01/0.02m = -di/2m
di = -1m

1/f = 1/do+1/di
1/f = 1/2m+1/-1m
f = -2 m

im not sure where i messed up
 


hi/ho = -di/do
0.01/0.02m = -di/2m
di = -1m
You chose Do = 2 m.

Oh, I missed that - the image is on the wall 2m from the spider! So the lens must be between the wall and the spider. And Do + Di = 2. Between the two of us, we'll get this yet!
You can't choose Do = 2; you must put Do = 2 - Di.
Probably easiest to put it into 1/2 = Di/Do so you can solve for Di.
Then it is easy to get f. I get a little less than half a meter.
Kind of backwards, having to do (b) before (a).
 


got it
thanx a lot
 

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