Determine the general solution of QL PDE

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The discussion revolves around determining the general solution of a partial differential equation (PDE) given by the equation \( u u_x - y u_y = y \). Participants are exploring methods of implicit differentiation to verify their solutions.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the general solution using a method involving separable variables and integration. They express uncertainty about the correctness of their solution and seek clarification on the verification process through implicit differentiation.

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Some participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, while others have noted a separate forum post for additional input. The discussion includes questions about the integration process and the notation used in the solution.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation and the function involved in the solution. The original poster has acknowledged a missing function symbol in their attempt, which may affect the clarity of their solution.

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Homework Statement



1) Determine the general solution of the equation

2) Use implict differentiation to verify that your solution satisfies the given PDE

Homework Equations



u u_x-y u_y=y


The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{dx}{u}=\frac{dy}{-y}=\frac{du}{y}

Take the second two

\int-dy=\int du \implies u=-y+A

Taking the first two

\frac{dx}{(-y+A)}=\frac{dy}{-y} \implies dx=\frac{(-y+A)dy}{-y}

Integrating gives

x=y-A \ln(y) + f(A) but f(A)=u+y therefore the general solution implicitly is

x=y-A \ln(y) + u+y


1) How am I doing?
2) I don't know how to do second question assuming above is correct
3) How do I create the tags automatically?

Thanks
 
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Folks,

I have also posted this query at

http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/f59/determine-general-solution-ql-pde-185703.html"

I will keep each forum informed. No luck yet.

Thanks
 
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bugatti79 said:

Homework Statement



1) Determine the general solution of the equation

2) Use implict differentiation to verify that your solution satisfies the given PDE

Homework Equations



u u_x-y u_y=y


The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{dx}{u}=\frac{dy}{-y}=\frac{du}{y}

Take the second two

\int-dy=\int du \implies u=-y+A

Taking the first two

\frac{dx}{(-y+A)}=\frac{dy}{-y} \implies dx=\frac{(-y+A)dy}{-y}

Integrating gives

x=y-A \ln(y) + f(A) but f(A)=u+y therefore the general solution implicitly is

x=y-A \ln(y) + f(u+y)


1) How am I doing?
2) I don't know how to do second question assuming above is correct
3) How do I create the tags automatically?

Thanks

I realized I left out the function f symbol as highlighted above. Any ideas?
 
This is solved...See link in post 2

Cheers
 

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