Determine the horizontal distance travelled during its motion

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The problem involves a rock projected from the top of a building at an angle, with the goal of determining the height of the building based on the horizontal distance traveled before striking the ground. The subject area includes projectile motion and kinematics.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of time in the air and the components of initial velocity. There are questions about the methods used to determine the height of the building and the nature of the flight path after the projectile falls below its original trajectory.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the calculations involved, particularly regarding the time of flight and the nature of the projectile's motion. There is a mix of attempts to clarify methods and to question assumptions made in the original calculations.

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There are indications of potential errors in the initial calculations, particularly regarding the components of velocity and the treatment of the flight path. Participants are encouraged to verify their methods and results without reaching a consensus on the correct approach.

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A rock is projected from the edge of the top of a building with an initial velocity of 17.1 m/s at an angle of 37degrees above the horizontal. The rock strikes the ground a horizontal distance of 59.7 m from the base of the building. Assume that the ground is level and that the side of the building is vertical. How tall is the building?

My attempt:
This is the method i used to solve the problem:
1. I calculated the time to for the rock to carry out it's parabolic motion. To do this i just used v=u + at and u=17.1cos37 v=0 a=-9.8
t then was equal to 1.05. I multiplied this by two since a parabola is symmetric.

i then used this time to determine the horizontal distance traveled during its parabolic motion.

Then I subtracted this distance from the complete horizontal distance traveled which
gave me the horizontal distance traveled during its non parabolic flight.

This then allowed me to calculate the time of non-parabolic flight, which I then used
to calculate the vertical distance traveled during non-parabolic flight which would be equal to the height of the building.

The final answer I got was 34.202m which is incorrect. Can someone point out where I've gone wrong?
Thanks
 
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u=17.1cos37 v=0 a=-9.8
This step is wrong.
What is the vertical component of initial velocity?
 


sorry, it should be sin, that was just an error in my typing, what i have in my calculations however is correct.
 


Ry122 said:
1. I calculated the time to for the rock to carry out it's parabolic motion. To do this i just used v=u + at and u=17.1cos37 v=0 a=-9.8
t then was equal to 1.05. I multiplied this by two since a parabola is symmetric.
I don't understand what are you doing in this part... are you trying to solve the equation u+at = 0? if yes then what for?
 


im solving for t so that i can determine for what duration the rock is in the air while above the building so that i can then determine how long the rock is in the air below the building.
the time that the rock is in the air below the building for can then be used to determine how far the rock fell vertically while below the building hence determining the height of the building.
 


which gave me the horizontal distance traveled during its non parabolic flight...

This then allowed me to calculate the time of non-parabolic flight

Isn't the flight path after the projectile falls below its original trajectory point still parabolic?
I'm not 100% certain on that, maybe someone else can confirm...
 


Through out the motion it is projectile motion.
In this problem the range of the projectile, initial velocity and the angle of projection is given. From these values you can find the time flight.
Once you know the time of flight you can find the height of the building.
 


yeah it probably is still parabolic but that's not going to make my method of calculation incorrect in any way.

rl.bhat i did find the time of flight to determine the height of the building, but my final answer was incorrect.

can you please work the problem out and see if you get an answer different from mine?
Thanks
 


My answer is 48.65 m
 
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That answer is correct.
Can you show me your working?
 
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I am using the general equation of projectile.

Y = x*Voy/Vox -1/2*g*x^2/Vox^2
In this problem you have to take Y negative, because you are measuring it in the downward direction.
 

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