Determing The Chemical Formula of a Hydrate

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The discussion revolves around determining the chemical formula of a hydrate, specifically copper (II) sulfate hydrate, through calculations based on experimental data. Participants are addressing a homework problem that involves calculating the mass of water lost upon heating and the corresponding moles of water and anhydrous copper sulfate produced.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework statement detailing the heating of copper (II) sulfate hydrate and provides initial calculations for the mass of water lost and the moles of water and CuSO4.
  • Another participant acknowledges the general idea of the calculations but prompts for the ratio of moles of water to moles of CuSO4.
  • A different participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the numbers provided and notes the absence of a ratio in the initial calculations.
  • A later reply suggests that determining the ratio is straightforward, implying it can be achieved by dividing the previously calculated values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the calculations, and there is uncertainty regarding the ratio of moles of water to moles of CuSO4. Multiple views on how to proceed with the calculations are present.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided a ratio of moles, and there is a lack of verification for the initial calculations presented. The discussion does not clarify the assumptions made in the calculations or the definitions used for the terms involved.

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Homework Statement


When copper (II) sulfate hydrate, a blue crystalline solid containing embedded water molecules (called a hydrate), is heated in air, it loses the water molecules and the blue solid is transformed to a white anyhydrous (no water) crystal known as copper (II) sulfate.

Homework Equations


CuSO4 .x H2O +heat --> CuSO4 (s) + H2O (g)Observations: Mass of copper (II) sulfate hydrate = 0.1534g
Mass of anyhydrous copper (II) sulfate = 0.0980g

1a) Calculate mass of H2O that was driven off.
b) Calculate the number of moles of water present.
c) Calculate the number of moles of CuSO4 present.

My attempt to answer these questions:
1a) Since anhydrous copper sulfate has no water the mass of H2O driven off is 0.1534g - 0.0980g =0.0554g
b) n = m/M n= 0.0554/18.02 therefore, n= 3.07 x10 to the power of -3.
c) Mcuso4 = 159.62g/mol so, n=m/M n= 0.0980g/159.62g/mol which = 6.13 x10 to the power of -4
 
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So far so good (that is, I have not checked the numbers, just the general idea).

What is the ratio?
 
The numbers just don't look right for some reason...
No ratio given, that's a whole new question "Determine the ratio of moles of water to moles of CuSO4" that i have yet to attempt. If my answers are right then i can move on.
 
Come on, "whole new question" means just divide two numbers you got so far.
 

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