Determining Angle with Vector Components

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The original poster attempts to determine an angle \(\phi\) related to a force vector in a static structure problem. The context involves vector components and their relationships in a triangle formed by the forces acting on the structure.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes using the Pythagorean theorem and the law of sines to find the angle \(\phi\). Some participants question the application of the Pythagorean theorem, suggesting that it requires a right triangle, while others propose using the law of cosines instead.

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The discussion is actively exploring the correct geometric relationships involved in the problem. Participants are questioning the assumptions made regarding the triangle's configuration and are considering alternative approaches to resolve the issue.

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There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's calculated angle and the answer provided in the textbook, prompting further investigation into the geometric setup of the problem.

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Greetings women and men,

I have a problem in which I have to find an angle \phi.

http://srg.sdf.org/images/PF/StaticsHW.png

A horizontal force of \vec{F}=400 lbs is placed on the structure at point A. Find angle \phi to give the AB component of \vec{F} a magnitude of 600 lbs.

To solve this, I drew a diagram
http://srg.sdf.org/images/PF/StaticsHW2.png

I used the Pythagorean theorem to find x: 600^2=400^2+x^2 \rightarrow x=\sqrt{600^2-400^2} \therefore x=447.2

Then I used the law of sines to find \phi: \frac{447.2}{\sin{30}}=\frac{400}{\sin\phi} \rightarrow \frac{400\sin{30}}{447.2}=\sin\phi \rightarrow \arcsin{\frac{400\sin{30}}{447.2}}=\phi=26.6\deg

However, \phi=26.6\deg is not the same as the answer in the back of my textbook. I'm not sure where I went wrong. The correct answer in the textbook is \phi=38.3\deg.

Thanks!
 
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Where's the right angle? The pythagorean theorem is predicated on using a right triangle.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Where's the right angle? The pythagorean theorem is predicated on using a right triangle.

Ah! Duh! That's why. Law of cosines it is. Can't believe I overlooked that.

Thanks!
 
Uh ... do you understand the Pythagorean Theorem? What kind of triangles does it apply to?

EDIT: I see that jedishrfu beat me to it.
 

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