Determining convergence of (-1)^n/ln(n) as n goes to infinity

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The series defined by the expression (-1)^n/ln(n!) is determined to be conditionally convergent based on the Alternating Series Test, which confirms that the terms are positive, decreasing, and approach zero. However, the series does not converge absolutely, as indicated by the inconclusive results from the ratio test. The discussion highlights the misleading nature of Wolfram Alpha's outputs, particularly regarding the convergence of integrals related to the series. The integral of 1/(n*ln(n)) is suggested as a potential comparison for proving divergence.

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Homework Statement



Determine whether (-1)^n/ln(n!) is divergent, conditionally convergent, or absolutely convergent.

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None, really? :S

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Okay, so I know the series converges by the Alternating Series test - terms are positive, decreasing, going to zero. I also know that it absolutely converges...because Wolfram Alpha told me so. =P I have no idea how to prove it though. The ratio test results in 1 so that's inconclusive, so I'm left with comparison or limit comparison test..but I don't know what to compare it to.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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I would compare it to 1/ln(n^n). That's less than 1/ln(n!), right? And 1/ln(n^n) diverges by an integral test. Do you have that?
 
FuzzieLogic said:
Okay, so I know the series converges by the Alternating Series test - terms are positive, decreasing, going to zero. I also know that it absolutely converges...because Wolfram Alpha told me so. =P I have no idea how to prove it though. The ratio test results in 1 so that's inconclusive, so I'm left with comparison or limit comparison test..but I don't know what to compare it to.

Thanks in advance for your help!

WolframAlpha tells you the answer, you have the solutions. I don't see what's wrong here
 
flyingpig said:
WolframAlpha tells you the answer, you have the solutions. I don't see what's wrong here

Why are you posting here if you have nothing to contribute??
 
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Hi Dick and FlyingPig,

Thanks for your responses.

Dick - you are right, the integral does not converge.

FlyingPig, the problem is that WolframAlpha gave me an integer answer when I entered "the summation of 1/ln(n!) from 2 to infinity", so that was misleading.

Anyway thanks so much for helping me solve the problem.
 
This is what WolframAlpha gave me:

NIntegrate::ncvb: "NIntegrate failed to converge to prescribed accuracy after 9 recursive bisections in n near {n} = {2.176*10^6}. NIntegrate obtained 2.1848934935880644` and 0.0050671018999950595` for the integral and error estimates."

and then the integer 5.49193 as output. I guess that was an estimate for a sum that never actually converges.
 
FuzzieLogic said:
This is what WolframAlpha gave me:

NIntegrate::ncvb: "NIntegrate failed to converge to prescribed accuracy after 9 recursive bisections in n near {n} = {2.176*10^6}. NIntegrate obtained 2.1848934935880644` and 0.0050671018999950595` for the integral and error estimates."

and then the integer 5.49193 as output. I guess that was an estimate for a sum that never actually converges.

You are quite right. Wolfram Alpha can be misleading. So can flyingpig. Can you show the series diverges without trusting either one? What's the integral of 1/(n*ln(n))?
 
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