Convergence of a series involving ln() terms in the denominator of a fraction

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a series that involves logarithmic terms in the denominator. Participants are exploring various approaches to determine the convergence behavior of the series.

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  • Some participants suggest using asymptotic comparison to analyze the series, while others question the validity of the approximations used in the denominator. There is a discussion about the necessity of establishing a lower bound for the denominator to apply the majority criterion effectively.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's ideas, with some providing critical feedback on the initial approach. There is an acknowledgment of the need for stronger arguments and clearer estimations, but no consensus has been reached regarding the final approach to proving convergence.

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There are mentions of specific mathematical criteria and the need for careful handling of approximations, indicating that the discussion is constrained by the requirements of rigorous proof in convergence analysis.

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the convergence of a series (look at the image)
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asymptotic comparison
good day
I want to study the convergence of this serie and want to check my approch
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I want to procede by asymptotic comparison
artgln n ≈pi/2
n+n ln^2 n ≈n ln^2 n
and we know that
1/(n ln^2 n ) converge so the initial serie converge

many thanks in advance!
 

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This approach is far too hand wavy. You have no control about the approximations, and they even occur in the denominator! If you want to use the majority criterion you need an estimation
$$
\dfrac{1}{n(1+\log^2(n))\tan^{-1}(\log(n))}\leq \dfrac{1}{n^c} \Longleftrightarrow n^c\leq n(1+\log^2(n))\tan^{-1}(\log(n))
$$
for some ##c > 1##. This means you have to find a lower bound for the denominator which is still big enough.
 
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Amaelle said:
I want to procede by asymptotic comparison
artgln n ≈pi/2
n+n ln^2 n ≈n ln^2 n
You should make this stronger. n+n ln^2 n > n ln^2 n > 0, so |1/(n + n ln^2 n )| < |1/(n ln^2 n )|.
Amaelle said:
and we know that
1/(n ln^2 n ) converge so the initial serie converge
Do you know that it is absolutely convergent? If so, say that.
 
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thank you so much so my approach , (if I write it as you did ) is correct? I can use the approximation lim artgln n ≈pi/2 when n tends to infinity?
 
fresh_42 said:
This approach is far too hand wavy. You have no control about the approximations, and they even occur in the denominator! If you want to use the majority criterion you need an estimation
$$
\dfrac{1}{n(1+\log^2(n))\tan^{-1}(\log(n))}\leq \dfrac{1}{n^c} \Longleftrightarrow n^c\leq n(1+\log^2(n))\tan^{-1}(\log(n))
$$
for some ##c > 1##. This means you have to find a lower bound for the denominator which is still big enough.
thank you very much , I got your point!
 
What is artg?
 
the function arctangent
 
Got it. It's certainly valid to say things like if n is large enough, artg(ln(n)) > 1, and then use that as a lower bound for the denominator.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Got it. It's certainly valid to say things like if n is large enough, artg(ln(n)) > 1, and then use that as a lower bound for the denominator.
thanks a lot!
 

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