Determining if the series converges

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The discussion centers around the convergence of the series \( \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \sqrt[n]{3} \sqrt[n]{n} \). Participants explore the behavior of the terms as \( n \) approaches infinity and the implications for the series' convergence.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants consider using the nth term divergence test and discuss the limits of the individual components of the series. Questions arise regarding why the limits equal 1 and the implications of these limits for the series' convergence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the limits of the terms involved and questioning the reasoning behind these limits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of logarithms to analyze the limits, but there is no explicit consensus on the overall conclusion about the series' convergence.

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Participants express confusion about the application of logarithmic properties and the implications of the limits not approaching zero. There is a recognition of the need for further clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


n=1∑[itex]\sqrt[n]{3}[/itex]*[itex]\sqrt[n]{n}[/itex]



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I'm thinking that for this series I should use the nth term divergence test.
I know that the limit of each of them is 1, and the whole series converges to 1, but I can't remember why the limits are 1. Could someone please remind me? :)
 
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Your typesetting is messed up. Is this the series you are evaluating?

$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \sqrt[n]{3} \sqrt[n]{n}$$

If so, you are correct that ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{3} = 1## and ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{n} = 1##.

As you said, this implies that ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{3} \sqrt[n]{n} = 1## (the limit of a product is equal to the product of the limits - it's a good idea to check the proof of this if you aren't sure).

What does that imply about the limit of the series?
 
Sorry,that is what I meant! Since the limit doesn't approach 0 it diverges? But why does the limit equal 1 when you plug in infinity?
 
Regarding why ##\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{3} = 1##:

First note that ##\sqrt[n]{3} = 3^{1/n}##. Consider the log of this expression: ##\log(3^{1/n})##. Can you find the limit the log as ##n \rightarrow \infty##? Can you use the result to find the original limit?
 
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Sorry,that is what I meant! Since the limit doesn't approach 0 it diverges?
Yes, that's right. The terms do not approach zero, so the series diverges.
But why does the limit equal 1 when you plug in infinity?
See my previous post for a suggestion for ##\lim_{n \rightarrow 1} \sqrt[n]{3}##. The other limit, ##\lim_{n \rightarrow 1} \sqrt[n]{n}##, can be handled similarly but with a slight complication.
 
I'm sorry, I still don't quite understand what you mean. I get how you're rewriting the square root, but I got a little lost with the logs.
 
I claim that ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \log a_n = \log \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_n## for any convergent sequence of positive values ##a_n##. This is because ##\log## is a continuous function. Let's assume we know this result for now - if you're not sure why it's true, we can come back to it later.

So in your case, ##a_n = \sqrt[n]{3}##, and we have what I will call Equation 1:
$$\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \log \sqrt[n]{3} = \log \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{3}$$
Working with the left hand side, we have ##\log \sqrt[n]{3} = \log (3^{1/n}) = \frac{1}{n} \log 3## by the basic property of logarithms that ##\log x^y = y \log x##.

Now take the limit of that expression: ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{1}{n} \log{3} = ?## You should be able to get a numerical answer. Once you have that answer, do you see how Equation 1 allows you to find ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sqrt[n]{3}##?
 
Okay! Thanks, I think I get it! :)
 

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