Determining Magnetic Field Direction

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude and direction of the magnetic force experienced by an individual gaining electrons while running in Vancouver. The subject area involves concepts from electromagnetism, specifically the interaction between magnetic fields and moving charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the magnetic force and the direction using the cross product of vectors. Questions arise regarding the nature of the velocity vector, its units, and the dimensions of the final answer. There is also inquiry about the coordinate system used for direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants seeking clarification on the variables involved and the relevant equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the velocity vector and its direction, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the direction of the run and the specific dimensions required for the answer. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the calculations align with the expected units for force rather than magnetic field strength.

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Homework Statement


If you were to gain a few electrons and go running in Vancouver, what would be the magnitude and direction of the magnetic force that you would experience?

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The Attempt at a Solution


So I was able to determine the magnetic force but my only problem is determining the direction. What I think is the magnetic field vector is (17624, 5146, 50990) nT. I got this value from the magnetic field calculator by plugging in the latitude and longitude coordinates. The vector that I am assuming for me is (4, 0, 0). What I attempted to do was using the cross product equation to determine the direction of the magnetic field. What I get when I did the cross product as (-203960j + 20584k) nT. Please tell me if I am on the right track, greatly appreciated.
 
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Spackle said:

Homework Statement


If you were to gain a few electrons and go running in Vancouver, what would be the magnitude and direction of the magnetic force that you would experience?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So I was able to determine the magnetic force but my only problem is determining the direction. What I think is the magnetic field vector is (17624, 5146, 50990) nT. I got this value from the magnetic field calculator by plugging in the latitude and longitude coordinates. The vector that I am assuming for me is (4, 0, 0). What I attempted to do was using the cross product equation to determine the direction of the magnetic field. What I get when I did the cross product as (-203960j + 20584k) nT. Please tell me if I am on the right track, greatly appreciated.
Is the (4,0,0) a velocity or a current, and in what units?
What dimension should the answer have?
Is the x coordinate EW or NS, or something else? The question does not indicate the direction of run, but I suggest you choose that to maximise the force magnitude.
 
haruspex said:
Is the (4,0,0) a velocity or a current, and in what units?
What dimension should the answer have?
Is the x coordinate EW or NS, or something else? The question does not indicate the direction of run, but I suggest you choose that to maximise the force magnitude.
It is velocity (m/s) and the direction of the run would be in the west direction.
 
Spackle said:
It is velocity (m/s) and the direction of the run would be in the west direction.
You did not quote any relevant equations. You mentioned a cross product equation. What, exactly, does that equation say? Pay attention to what the variables represent.
You did not answer my question about the dimension the answer should have. You quoted units of nT, but you are asked for a force.
 

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