Determining Onto for f: Z x Z -> Z

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The discussion revolves around determining whether specific functions defined from Z x Z to Z are onto. The functions in question are f(m,n) = 2m - n and f(m,n) = |m| - |n|.

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  • Participants are discussing the definition of onto functions and how to apply it to the given functions. There are attempts to relate the problem to a known function, f(x) = 3x + 10, and questions about how to determine if the original functions satisfy the onto condition.

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Some participants are seeking clarification on the definition of onto functions and how to approach the problem. There is a mix of understanding and uncertainty, with some guidance offered on relating the problem to simpler examples. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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Determine whether f:Z x Z -> Z is onto if
1> f(m,n) = 2m-n
2> f(m,n) = |m| -|n|
 
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You need to show some work before we can help you with your homework. What do you know about onto functions? What have you thought so far?
 
ya i kno onto function

i also know how to implement in situation like

f(x)=3x+10

but i don't know ab the above...I guess this is guanine
 
What is the definition of "onto" function? Do these functions satisfy the definition?
These can be done in exactly the same way as f(x)= 3x+ 10.

Well, not exactly the same- actually these are easier because you have more values to work with.

"guanine"? Isn't that one of the amino acids that make up DNA?
 
Can u please explain me how to solve it ?
 
You said "i also know how to implement in situation like f(x)=3x+10"

Okay, how would you determine whether that is an "onto" function?

What happens if you do exactly the same thing with f(m,n)= 2m- n?

Please show us what you would do with f(x)= 3x+ 10.
 
f(x)=y
=> 3x+10 = y
=>x=(y-10)/3

for every value of y there exists a value of x
so its an onto function
 

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