Determining Smallest Value of n for Air Wedge Light Fringes

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the smallest integer value of n for which bright fringes from two monochromatic wavelengths (550 nm and 672 nm) coincide in an air wedge setup. The context is within the study of interference patterns in optics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the fringes of different wavelengths and question whether the nth and (n-1)th fringes are the correct pair to consider for overlap. There is exploration of the reasoning behind the choice of these specific fringes.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the reasoning that n and (n-1) are the appropriate fringes to consider for finding the minimum value of n. Others provide analogies to illustrate the concept, while also noting the complexity introduced by the differing starting points of the maxima.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions regarding the relationship between m and n, particularly in terms of their difference and the implications for finding integer solutions. The problem setup does not provide explicit constraints on the values of m and n beyond the requirement for them to be integers.

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Homework Statement


A ray of light consisting of 2 monochromatic wavelengths, 550 nm and 672 nm, is incident on an air wedge. It is found that, at the nth bright fringe from the vertex of the air wedge for the 550 nm wave, a bright fringe for the
672 nm wave is also formed. Determine the smallest value of n.


Homework Equations


2t=(m-0.5)λ
x= λ/(2 tan θ)


The Attempt at a Solution


For the wave of 550 nm,
2t = (n-0.5)x , where t is the thickness at a point of the air wedge

For the wave of 672 nm,
2t= (m-0.5)x'

Since it's the same air wedge i.e. t is the same for both equations,we can equate the 2 equations.
(n-0.5)x=(m-0.5)x'
(n-0.5)(550)=(m-0.5)(672)

But I can't find another equation relating m and n.

The solution given is:

Distance of nth bright fringe of wavelength λ from the vertex = (n-0.5)x

Distance of (n-1)th bright fringe of wavelength λ' from the vertex
=(n-1.5)x'

(n-0.5)x=(n-1.5)x'
(n-0.5)(550)=(n-1.5)(672)
n=6

My question is, can we consider the fringes of both waves that coincide at a point of the air wedge, nth and (n-1)th fringes from the vertex? Shouldn't it be nth and mth fringes from the vertex since they have different wavelengths?

Is my approach to the question correct?
 
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Yes, you're right. And the solution is right, too.They are nth and (n-1)th fringes because n is supposed to be minimum. Think about it :smile:
 
cyt91 said:
My question is, can we consider the fringes of both waves that coincide at a point of the air wedge, nth and (n-1)th fringes from the vertex? Shouldn't it be nth and mth fringes from the vertex since they have different wavelengths?
Remember that you are trying to find the smallest value of n for which the bright fringes overlap. So you start with m = n - 1 and see if there's an integral solution. Of course, the problem is set up so there is! :wink: If that didn't work, you'd try m = n - 2, then m = n - 3, and so on.
 
Are you asking why m should differ by one from n and not by some other arbitrary integer? Draw yourself a number of equally spaced arbitrary lines separated by, say, 1.0 cm. With the same starting point, draw underneath them a second set of lines separated by 0.9 cm. Note that when you move to the tenth mark on the bottom set you are 9 cm from the starting point which is the ninth mark on the top set. The marks will also coincide at 18 cm and so on but the smallest value is 9 and 10. If you understand this, you should also understand why m and n must differ by one.

The situation in this problem is slightly more complicated because the maxima don't start at the same distance from the vertex, but the given solution takes care of that.
 
kuruman said:
Are you asking why m should differ by one from n and not by some other arbitrary integer? Draw yourself a number of equally spaced arbitrary lines separated by, say, 1.0 cm. With the same starting point, draw underneath them a second set of lines separated by 0.9 cm. Note that when you move to the tenth mark on the bottom set you are 9 cm from the starting point which is the ninth mark on the top set. The marks will also coincide at 18 cm and so on but the smallest value is 9 and 10. If you understand this, you should also understand why m and n must differ by one.

The situation in this problem is slightly more complicated because the maxima don't start at the same distance from the vertex, but the given solution takes care of that.

Is there a mathematical proof for this?
 

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