Determining the Speed of a Bowling Ball using Realistic Values

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a bowling ball based on a scenario where the ball travels a distance of 16.5 meters and the sound of it hitting the pins is heard 2.50 seconds after release. The problem involves incorporating the speed of sound into the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to express the time taken for the ball to reach the pins and the time for sound to travel back to the bowler. There is an exploration of how to set up equations based on these times and the total time given.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the equations needed to solve for the speed of the ball. However, there are also critiques regarding the realism of the problem's parameters, leading to a mixed exploration of the scenario's validity.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns raised about the length of the bowling lane being shorter than standard specifications, which some participants feel detracts from the problem's relevance. Additionally, there is a discussion about the importance of using realistic values in physics problems.

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A ball traveling with constant speed hits the pins placed at the end of the bowling lane 16.5 metres long. The bowler heard the sound of the ball hitting the pins 2.50s after the ball was released from his hands. What was the speed of the ball? The speed of sound is 340 m/s.

i know the basic idea of the question, but how do you incorporate the speed of sound into it? You are looking for vf.



vi = 0, vf = ? d = 16.5 t = 2.50 s a = ?



Any help would be appreciated, as i have no idea where to start
 
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Write an expression for t1, the time taken for the ball to hit the pins in terms of the ball speed, and another one for t2 the time taken for sound waves to travel from the pins to the person using distance and speed of sound. Then t1 + t2 = 2.5 . From here you can solve fo speed of ball.
 
thank you for the help, it helped a lot :smile:
 
Personally, I think the question is pointless. A real bowling alley is 60 feet (18.3 meters) from foul line to the center of the head pin. A lane that is only 16.5 meters long does not conform to USA Bowling specs. BTW - I can toss a ball 28+ mph. If I really try, I can hit 30.
 
I fail to see what the last post has got to do with anything at all. Clearly you're not going to object to a physics teacher in an exam that the values in the question do not appear realistic!
 
Other than learning to churn numbers, what is the point of doing exercises with unrealistic values? Practice with real world values. Too many mistakes are made by not recognizing bad data.

Besides, I was only here to investigate what might be some realistic values for bowling ball velocities. A physics forum is a bad place to investigate realistic possibilities?
 

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