Determining time to melt an ice cube

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The problem involves determining the time required to melt a 0.25 kg ice cube that starts at -30°C and is heated by an electric heater. The discussion centers around the calculations of heat transfer and power, with specific attention to the equations governing these processes.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between heat transfer, power, and time, questioning how to find the power of the heater given the initial conditions and temperature changes. There is also discussion on the appropriate formulas to use for calculating heat transfer.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the correct formula for heat transfer, while others have attempted various calculations and substitutions. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to find the power and subsequently the time required for melting the ice.

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Participants are working under the assumption that there is no energy loss to the surroundings, and they are navigating through the complexities of applying the correct equations for the scenario presented.

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Homework Statement



The mass of the piece of ice is 0.25kg.
Heated by an electric heater (assume there is no loss of energy to the surroundings)
Started at -30°C at 0seconds
After 150s the ice cube is -10°C


Homework Equations


Q=mL_{f}
\Deltat=Q/P



The Attempt at a Solution


Q=mL_{f}
=(0.25kg)(330000J/(kg·°C)
=82500J

I know the next step is to use the second equation, but since I don't know the W of the heater, how would I go abouts finding out the time??
 
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How about using the time given (150 s for going from -30°C to -10°C) to find the power?
 
I've tried many different formulas and most don't make sense to me :/

For example this is one of the formulas I've gotten, but it just seems so wrong to be correct because once you put it into the other equation you get like 3 seconds which makes NO sense what so ever.
\Deltat=Q/P

150s = (-30°C-(-10°c)/P
150s = (20°C)/P
150s/20°C = P
7.5W= P
 
You are making the wrong substitution for Q; you are substituting the temperature difference whilst you have to substitute mcΔT i.e. the heat Q required to change the temperature by ΔT. Try that out and see if it makes more sense.
 
Q=mc\Delta\Deltat
Q= (0.25)(2100)(0--30°C)
Q = 6300J

(now find the Power)
P=Q/\Deltat
P=6300J/150s
P=43W

Now I can use the first formula I figured out:
Q=mL_{f}
=(0.25kg)(330000J/(kg·°C)
=82500J

Next step would be to find the time!
\Deltatime=Q/P
\Deltat=82500J/43W
=1918.65

Woo, I think it's all correct now! Thank you for your help. I knew what formulas to use after I was given a hint after the first one.

Again thank you!
=1920s
 

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