Develop a formula for the SA of a cone

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The discussion revolves around developing a formula for the radius of a cone as a function of its surface area, given that the height is three times its diameter. Participants are exploring the relationship between the surface area, radius, and height of the cone.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to express the slant height in terms of the radius and height, and are questioning how to incorporate these into the surface area formula. There are discussions about the values of height and radius, and whether certain assumptions about their relationships are correct.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts to derive relationships and questioning the correctness of their assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding substituting variables into equations, but there is no clear consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants note that the height is defined as three times the diameter, which translates to specific relationships between height and radius. There are also mentions of potential errors in understanding these relationships.

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Homework Statement



Develop a formula for radius as a function of surface area for a cone with height three times its diameter.

Homework Equations



∏rs + ∏r^2 = SA
s = √(h^2+r^2)
H = 3d or 6r

The Attempt at a Solution



Dont know what values to use for s = √(h^2+r^2).
 
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zaddyzad said:

Homework Statement



Develop a formula for radius as a function of surface area for a cone with height three times its diameter.

Homework Equations



∏rs + ∏r^2 = SA
s = √(h^2+r^2)
3h=1d or 2r

The Attempt at a Solution



Dont know what values to use for s = √(h^2+r^2).

You are given that the height is 3 times the diameter, so you can get s in terms of r. Put that in your formula for SA and solve for r in terms of SA.
 
LCKurtz said:
You are given that the height is 3 times the diameter, so you can get s in terms of r. Put that in your formula for SA and solve for r in terms of SA.

Would my h value be 3 and my r value be 0.5 ?
 
I also realized I made the error 3D=1H instead of vice versa.
 
zaddyzad said:
Would my h value be 3 and my r value be 0.5 ?

No, ##r## isn't given. It is one of the variables you are to use. It and SA are the variables in your requested equation. ##H = 3D = 6r##.
 
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zaddyzad said:
I derived r = √(s^2-h^2)/6. Can you check that ?

Why bother with that? You need s in terms of r to plug into your SA equation.
 
s=√(h^2+6r^2), the answer is r=√SA/∏(1+√37). How do they get rid of the H ?
 
LCKurtz said:
Why bother with that? You need s in terms of r to plug into your SA equation.

Would that be the proper thing for S?
 
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You have ##s=\sqrt{h^2+r^2}## and you have ##h = 6r##. Put that in for the ##h## in the ##s## equation. Then put that result in for the ##s## in your SA equation. Then solve that for ##r##.
 

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