Dice Probability: Odds of a Number Coming Up 850 Times

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The discussion revolves around the probability of rolling a specific number on a 17-sided die a certain number of times (850) out of 12,500 rolls. Participants explore the calculations involved in determining the odds of achieving this outcome, including the probability of rolling that number at least 850 times.

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  • One participant asks about the odds of rolling a specific number 850 times when rolling a 17-sided die 12,500 times.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the probability of rolling exactly 850 times, using binomial probability calculations.
  • A later reply clarifies that the original question was about the probability of rolling 850 times or more, not just exactly 850 times.
  • There is a request for confirmation regarding a specific calculated probability value of approximately 1.6209 X 10-6.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the final probability calculation, as the discussion includes clarifications and adjustments to the original question regarding the probability threshold.

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The discussion involves complex probability calculations and assumptions about the independence of each die roll. There may be limitations in the assumptions made regarding the distribution of outcomes.

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Hello, I have a dice (or just general probability) question.

Its kind of a question of odds of odds.

If you roll a 17 sided die 12500 times (sorry for the non rounded number) the probability with the highest odds is that it will come up on one particular number (pick one) 735 times.

What are the odds that that number would come up 850 times?

Simple right?

Thanks.
 
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The probability that a number will come up on anyone throw is 1/17. The probability it will NOT come up is 16/17. The probability it will come up on the first 850 tosses but not on any of the 12500- 850= 11650 tosses is [itex](1/17)^{850}(16/17)^{11650}[/itex].
Now we can rearrange 850 "S" (for "success" in throwing that particular number) and 11650 "F" (for "failure" in throwing that particular number)
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}12500 \\ 850\end{array}\right)= \frac{12500!}{850!11650!}[/tex]
which can also be written 12500C850.

So the probability of rolling exactly 850 of a specific number is
[tex]_{12500}C_{850}\left(\frac{1}{17}\right)^{850}\left(\frac{16}{17}\right)^{11650}[/tex]
 
Sorry, my fault, I didn't quite state my question correctly.

What I meant to say was, what is the probability that the number will come up 850 times or more.

i.e. probability of it coming up 850 times plus all other options to 12500 combined.

Thanks for your help already.
 
Sorry, I was also just wondering if you get the same answer for your calculation shown of approximately 1.6209 X 10-6?

Thanks.
 

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